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re: NCAA is not long for this world
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:38 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:38 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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What problem solving skills are required for a pre-med degree (since that’s the one you are apparently focused on?) that not everyone has the intellectual capacity for?
Chemistry
Bio-chemistry
Organic chemistry
Physics
Those are not courses that are just retaining information
And no everyone does not have the intellectual ability to retain that much information
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:44 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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If UAB can afford sports
It can't. Boosters are funding UAB sports.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:45 pm to lsufball19
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And no everyone does not have the intellectual ability to retain that much information
This is completely false. Memorizing material to pass a test is something the average human brain can handle with training.
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Chemistry
Bio-chemistry
Organic chemistry
These are all memorization mixed with some pretty simple math (algebra, applying equations)
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Physics
For pre-med, this would just be physics 1, which is basically just memorizing and using equations and applying very basic calculus.
All of that just boils down to learning rules and recognizing when to apply them.
None of that is out of reach of the average human mind.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:49 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
-Naming conventions in organic chemistry are ridiculous
-For Physics 1, maybe. Physics 2 (Electricity and Optics) and 3 (Atomic) not so much.
The problem with just boiling those down to memorization is that much of the credit given in those exams requires showing your work and how you arrived from start to finish.
-For Physics 1, maybe. Physics 2 (Electricity and Optics) and 3 (Atomic) not so much.
The problem with just boiling those down to memorization is that much of the credit given in those exams requires showing your work and how you arrived from start to finish.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:49 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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This is completely false
No, it’s not
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These are all memorization mixed with some pretty simple math
ok
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For pre-med, this would just be physics 1, which is basically just memorizing and using equations and applying very basic calculus.
“Basic calculus” is not something any student can do
Man, for as easy as all these majors and courses apparently are, what exactly is your argument about college athletes being behind the 8-ball with their studies? It’s like you crawfish out of one argument to completely contradict that argument with an even dumber argument. Bravo
I’m honestly curious what your major was
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:53 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:You're pretty much right. My daughter is in her final semester of her bio-medical degree, and even though she apparently understands the curriculum, she complains that so much of her studies are focused on memorization.
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And no everyone does not have the intellectual ability to retain that much information
This is completely false. Memorizing material to pass a test is something the average human brain can handle with training.
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Chemistry
Bio-chemistry
Organic chemistry
These are all memorization mixed with some pretty simple math (algebra, applying equations)
quote:
Physics
For pre-med, this would just be physics 1, which is basically just memorizing and using equations and applying very basic calculus.
All of that just boils down to learning rules and recognizing when to apply them.
None of that is out of reach of the average human mind.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:54 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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PlatefullofJohnsons
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:55 pm to imjustafatkid
All you have to do is answer this question? This is the crux of the argument
Is there a billion dollar tv contract without the name brand of the schools
If you legitimately think that there will be office pools millions upon millions of eyes watching if all these players just played in a d league playoff than you have an argument
I would have serious doubts that there would be any worthwhile tv contract for anything like that. Nobody would care. And dumbass talking heads like jay bilas would be out of a job
I’m ok with paying a higher stipend to bball and football players. But title ix needs to stay our of it. It really ahold be for the revenue sports only and then go from there
Is there a billion dollar tv contract without the name brand of the schools
If you legitimately think that there will be office pools millions upon millions of eyes watching if all these players just played in a d league playoff than you have an argument
I would have serious doubts that there would be any worthwhile tv contract for anything like that. Nobody would care. And dumbass talking heads like jay bilas would be out of a job
I’m ok with paying a higher stipend to bball and football players. But title ix needs to stay our of it. It really ahold be for the revenue sports only and then go from there
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:00 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Fat orange failure? Oh my god. Cause biden is doing so well.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:01 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Naming conventions in organic chemistry are ridiculous
Learning terminology doesn’t require problem solving skills.
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Physics 2 (Electricity and Optics) and 3 (Atomic) not so much.
Are still just pretty straightforward calculus problems with different application sets.
The problems require more attention to detail than you see in some less ‘mathy’ classes, but it’s still all just learning and applying rules.
The most mentally demanding part of college physics is understanding a few proofs, but those are ultimately previously solved problems that you just need to re-work and understand.
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The problem with just boiling those down to memorization
I didn’t boil physics down to memorization. My point of contention with this fine LSU fan is his assertion that these courses require a mental capacity that a lot of humans don’t possess.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:02 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Top baseball players go to MLB very quickly
This is not true. Most who get drafted either flame out or never get above AA. Baseball IS THE absolute hardest sport to make it to the big show.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:09 pm to lsufball19
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“Basic calculus” is not something any student can do
Sure it is, but most need fundamental math education (especially algebra and trig) that high schools often fail to provide.
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Man, for as easy as all these majors and courses apparently are
I never said they were easy! I had to work my arse off for some undergrad courses.
I never even argued that they were realistically achievable by everybody.
My point of contention is the assertion that it boils down to intellectual or mental capacity.
Most people have the brains to ace any of these courses (obviously taking into account fair accommodations of disabilities).
The educational foundation, drive, and discipline, are all more important, and the first one in this list is not trivial at all.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:09 pm to trackem
quote:Good luck. You’ve gotta be really good to make it in the NFL. Outside of the NFL your fair market value as a football player is essentially non-existent.
Somewhere they could capitalize on their talents at a fair-market value, perhaps?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:12 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Are still just pretty straightforward calculus problems with different application sets.
No, atomic and quantum physics consist of a LOT of abstract theory with uncertain answers.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:17 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:I don’t know how this argument got to this point but I had to jump in and state my opinion that based on my experience the average human is absolutely not capable of doing calculus.
I didn’t boil physics down to memorization. My point of contention with this fine LSU fan is his assertion that these courses require a mental capacity that a lot of humans don’t possess.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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abstract theory with uncertain answers.
Stochasticity! How terrifying! It’s almost like practical physics deals with... the real world.
While uncertainty in the context of mathematics is conceptually more difficult to grasp, it is still just a similar of mental process of knowing when to apply rules, solving algebraic equations, etc.
It’s certainly hard, but it is a job that our human brains are cut out for.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:19 pm to beaverfever
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the average human is absolutely not capable of doing calculus.
That's like telling someone to "learn to code". Most people can't effectively "think in strings".
People either think primarily intuitively or primarily logically. The number of people that can do both equally number in the double-digits worldwide.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:21 pm to lsufball19
quote:Plate to a tee.
Man, for as easy as all these majors and courses apparently are, what exactly is your argument about college athletes being behind the 8-ball with their studies? It’s like you crawfish out of one argument to completely contradict that argument with an even dumber argument. Bravo
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:24 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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That's like telling someone to "learn to code". Most people can't effectively "think in strings".
“Learning to code” is something that man-made processors can do. The human brain has a lot more “computing power” - if you will.
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Most people can't effectively "think in strings".
The common character encoding schemes are orders of magnitude more simple than human language, and we all know at least one language.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:26 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Physics 2 (Electricity and Optics) and 3 (Atomic) not so much.
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Are still just pretty straightforward calculus problems with different application sets.
Have you actually taken these classes?
Hell, Physics 1 is actually simpler. Vast majority is F=mA.
The trick is knowing what F, m, and A are.
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