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Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:03 pm to OSqueal
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It shows your bias
Everyone is biased. Half the country was so biased they are still in denial about the election results and instead cling to conspiracies. Welcome to reality.
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don't care about the other side of the coin
I’m literally relating what a conservative justice’s response to the NCAA’s argument was.
Not my fault you sensitive snowflakes don’t want to hear it.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:03 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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I posted a purely factual thread, and your dumb aggy arse refused to believe it.
Maybe you did, but your constant harping and trolling here has typecast you as someone whose posts I intuitively dismiss. You may not like it, but it's a reputation you've earned.
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It’s not just a liberal justice hammering them right now, bozo. One of your fat orange failure’s nominees also had harsh words for their lawyer’s arguments.
Where did I project anything political onto this? Trump has been out of office for 2 months and some people still see him in EVERY THING, EVERY DAY. Get help.
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I’m sure you haven’t even read the transcripts because A&M grads are not known for being smart.
Well, there are a couple of schools in the SEC that have room to smack-talk academics. Cowbell isn't one of them.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:10 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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They won’t really have a choice. The current feeling in the courts is that member institutions using the NCAA to limit compensation is no different than competing companies conspiring to limit wages, which is illegal.
If this ruling is upheld, scholarship restrictions are gone, and the NCAA will have to he reinvented as that’s a key rule.
Nobody forces them to play college sports. They choose to do so because it's an awesome opportunity that most people would love to be offered.
The idea that schools can't form rules for competitive reasons is ridiculous. It is not the same as companies conspiring to limit wages. It is a single organization that determines what is acceptable.
Other forms of competition are welcome to appear, and the NCAA has no control over it. I guess salary caps in professional sports, also done for competitive reasons, would be illegal?
In fact, other competition has appeared many times, and for some reason they are never able to offer anything close to what college football offers.
I would love for some truth in media reporting for once. And then the next time they cite those "billions made by the NCAA", they also include the "expenses occured by the NCAA", so they could see the expenses are greater than what is made. And that most of these schools operate heavily on donated funds and couldn't make it without them.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:15 pm to 3down10
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In fact, other competition has appeared many times, and for some reason they are never able to offer anything close to what college football offers.
Plus, it's about to ruin any chance of some borderline guys getting a chance to play football and receive a degree at the same time.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:27 pm to Ag Zwin
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Where did I project anything political onto this?
I intuitively assumed the fact that you didn’t put forth a constructive argument, came off as a moron, and whined about Twitter meant you were a fan of a certain former politician. Was I not correct?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:28 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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SCOTUS hearing seems to be going very poorly for them. If SCOTUS upholds the lower court’s decision, more court cases will come and the NCAA will collapse like a house of cards.
Good.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:28 pm to 3down10
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It is a single organization that determines what is acceptable.
That is not what the NCAA is.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:33 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Eh, college is already irrelevant for baseball stars, and basketball is already on the one-and-done system.
Oh that’s an “eh” for you. How about the athletes who could use those few years in college?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:38 pm to 1BamaRTR
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How about the athletes who could use those few years in college?
This doesn’t affect them. Scholarship athletes existed before the current television contract circus.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:39 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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I intuitively assumed the fact that you didn’t put forth a constructive argument, came off as a moron, and whined about Twitter meant you were a fan of a certain former politician. Was I not correct?
And therein lies one of your many problems.
I voted for Trump.
I think he's a buffoon that only has himself to blame for not getting re-elected.
I am glad to not have him in the headlines every day.
I think his term produced a lot of results that any rational assessment would praise, whether he was directly responsible for them or not.
He also created or allowed many problems to boil over.
I think Joe Biden 1996 would have been a better vote.
Joe Biden 2020 is someone neither he nor Joe Biden 1996 recognizes, and I'm not sure Joe Biden 2020 does, either. Any objective perspective should have serious worries about his mental condition.
Your "all or nothing" mentality is a sign of a weak intellect. Fitzgerald's words, not mine. By all means, though, hold yourself up on that "smart person" pedestal. It's a canard the left has gone "all in" on for 4 years.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:39 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:To get a college education that they'd never be able to afford otherwise OR even gain acceptance to college without lower entrance standards.
Oh that’s an “eh” for you. How about the athletes who could use those few years in college?
The notion that the NCAA is an evil empire when it's a 100% voluntary organization made of the it's (voluntary) member institutions is comical.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:42 pm to Ag Zwin
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Your "all or nothing" mentality is a sign of a weak intellect.
This entire conversation started because you bragged about completely discounting my OP purely due to my “reputation”. I simply gave you the same level of respect.
frick off, hypocrite.
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I voted for Trump.
I could tell.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:42 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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That is not what the NCAA is.
The NCAA is an organization made up of it's member institutions to determine the rules and things those members follow for fairness and competitive reasons.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:45 pm to 3down10
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The NCAA is an organization made up of it's member institutions
Which is precisely the issue.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:47 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:So institutions holding each other accountable is the problem?
Which is precisely the issue.
What's the better alternative? The government doing it?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:50 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
And yet you are getting downvoted faster than I can even reply.
The difference here is that I formed my assessments based on direct observation of your actual posts.
You've made yours based on a completely unrelated data point, and even that one was "assumed" after the fact and is simply an ad hominem based on childish tribalism.
See the difference?
The difference here is that I formed my assessments based on direct observation of your actual posts.
You've made yours based on a completely unrelated data point, and even that one was "assumed" after the fact and is simply an ad hominem based on childish tribalism.
See the difference?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:51 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Which is precisely the issue.
It's not an issue. The idea that the schools can't form together to get oversight and fairness between them in a sport is just dumb.
You are suggesting that the NCAA is able to force out other competition for football/basketball/sports. They do nothing of the sort. You have the NFL, a similiar organization on the professional level - they do not want these players. Then you have other leagues that come up from time to time. They are never able to offer anything close to what college football is able to offer. Baseball has it's own thing, they take players year 1. Basketball has it's leagues as well. Still they CHOOSE college.
So to compare it to a cartel is just ignorant.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:55 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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The NCAA is an organization made up of it's member institutions
quote:Would you want government oversight or some random arse elected body to govern college sports?
Which is precisely the issue.
At least when member institutions make the rules, regulations, and governing body they have some semblance of college athletics and what it entails. They collectively make the frame work and rules every member institution agrees to operate under.
I'm not saying the NCAA doesn't have serious issues and needs to progress. The way they choose to drag out investigations and hand down sanctions are beyond ridiculous. But what school would ever want to see elected government officials touch college sports OR a bunch of off the sidewalk attorney's or business men run the show and totally leave the schools out of the decision making process?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Which is precisely the issue.
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So institutions holding each other accountable is the problem?
What's the better alternative? The government doing it?
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