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re: NCAA is not long for this world
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:38 pm to Ag Zwin
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:38 pm to Ag Zwin
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This is true, problem is that most don't call it out equally
I'll admit to that,
Jesus, spare me the self righteous bullshite.
The two party system and ineffective separation of powers don’t allow for nuance.
You’re either voting to help one side get power or the other. You can try to add all the asterisks to your opinions you like, they don’t fricking matter.
And you know what? This isn’t new. Power players in the parties rise and fall, but in the end we all make totalitarian choices when we vote at the national level.
If you can’t handle being lumped on the same side as the qanon loons, then you shouldn’t have voted right.
I don’t particularly like being lumped in with the loons on the left, but it’s a fair thing for people to do because - at the end of the day - that is the party I voted for.
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:39 pm to trackem
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Other pro organizations would quickly follow the same course without the gentleman’s agreements. It wouldn’t be good for college sports and non-pro potential athletes, but at least it would be honest and pay adults what they are worth for their services.
Sounds like your gripe is with the NFL’s rules
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:42 pm to lsufball19
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The same could be said about the value of a conference or program without the athletes.
quote:LONG before recruiting rankings, and "hat tricks" at a recruits high school were televised. Before some programs willing to pay multi-millions in buyouts to send a coach packing because he didn't win enough.
Not really. CFB was very popular before multi billion dollar TV deals and long before coaching was a way to get rich
CFB was still King when folks listened on the radio because TV would only broadcast a few games on a Saturday.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:50 pm to RT1941
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the TV spotlight those schools bring to the athlete?
The current TV spotlight only exists because of the demand for the larger CFB product, which is partly driven by the high level of play and the fact that NCAAF is the only developmental league for the NFL. All upcoming NFL stars play in the NCAA first.
The bama fans and auburn fans will keep their programs and scholarships afloat even without the massive TV deals and inflated coaching staffs.
This isn’t uncharted territory. College football existed before it turned into the unsustainable monstrosity it is now.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:51 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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All upcoming NFL stars play in the NCAA first.
That’s not why college football is popular. They will soon find that out
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:53 pm to lsufball19
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That’s not why college football is popular.
It is certainly a contributing factor to the sport’s current level of visibility. They wouldn’t hype up and televise the draft otherwise.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:53 pm to lsufball19
My gripe is with the NCAA and the model for “amateur” sports. The NFL doesn’t want to organize, maintain, fund and run a B league, so it leaves it to colleges. They could easily say they would take a one-and-done though and poach the best first- or second-year players off teams.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:55 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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College football existed before it turned into the unsustainable monstrosity it is now.
It's simple economics. Supply and demand. Take the best players out of the NCAAF and demand will evaporate.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:58 pm to trackem
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They could easily say they would take a one-and-done though and poach the best first- or second-year players off teams.
Do you really want to see an 18/19 yo playing against 25-30 yo in the NFL? Do you think that would be fair to the kid?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:58 pm to Lg
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Take the best players out of the NCAAF and demand will evaporate
Yes, and the sport will reset itself to a level that is appropriate for academic institutions.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:00 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Yes, and the sport will reset itself to a level that is appropriate for academic institutions.
So where do the kids go to get the exposure they get at the academic institutions?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:00 pm to LanierSpots
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IT will be a terrible thing. People are just dumb
Yep
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:00 pm to trackem
quote:The NFL's not going to deal with this shite, they are fine operating at status quo. The NFL needs college football like it is now, they aren't going to expand salary caps and rosters for 1 or 2 yr college players.
My gripe is with the NCAA and the model for “amateur” sports. The NFL doesn’t want to organize, maintain, fund and run a B league, so it leaves it to colleges. They could easily say they would take a one-and-done though and poach the best first- or second-year players off teams.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:05 pm to Lg
A merit-based system is fair by definition. They could work their way into a starting role while still getting paid fair-market value for their talent and production. Would I want to watch college sports if the NFL went that route? Well, I barely want to watch it now since so many teams are getting a pass from the NCAA because of money and ratings while those teams create a recruiting monopoly.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:06 pm to Lg
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So where do the kids go to get the exposure they get at the academic institutions?
They don’t need to go anywhere. The NFL needs to maintain profits, which means they need to find talent to keep eyes on the screens.
Basketball agents watch high school and middle school games.
The pro leagues will work themselves out.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:08 pm to Lg
All it would take is a couple of big name schools to pull out and it would be gone overnight.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:16 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Basketball agents watch high school and middle school games.
Basketball skill sets are less deterministic of age. A kid 6'-6" in high school will good skills can play against older guys and hold their own.
Football is a whole different animal. You really think an NFL GM is going to pay a kid four or five years and hopefully he pans out? You're an idiot if you think that.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:19 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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It is certainly a contributing factor to the sport’s current level of visibility.
A contributing factor that would be rendered moot if the best players out of high school didn’t play college football. College football would still be profitable and no one would watch minor league football just like they don’t watch minor league baseball or basketball
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They wouldn’t hype up and televise the draft otherwise.
What does the draft being on TV have to do with college football?
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:19 pm to kywildcatfanone
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All it would take is a couple of big name schools to pull out and it would be gone overnight.
Schools to pull out of the NCAA? Okay, so if the NCAA is gone, who would be the ruling body?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:19 pm to Lg
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You really think an NFL GM is going to pay a kid four or five years and hopefully he pans out? You're an idiot if you think that
You don’t seem to understand economics.
It doesn’t matter what happens with college football, the NFL has to continue to produce a product to remain profitable.
They need talented athletes to produce said product, and, as such, they will ensure they have a mechanism to evaluate and recruit said athletes.
It’s not colleges’ fricking job to make sure a pro league has a talent pipeline.
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