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re: NCAA commissions task force to separate big money boosters from NIL deals

Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:15 pm to
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But does that salary cap only limit what players can be paid directly from the team? Or does it limit what a player himself can make with NIL?



Saying players can’t receive NIL money from boosters isn’t even a salary cap. The point was that imposing a cap on earnings isn’t some novel idea the courts would have an issue with
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:16 pm to
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What dumbasses like you apparently still don’t understand is tht the vast majority will demand regulation because otherwise college football won’t survive long term. You 8&4feit fans don’t even care as long as you can buy a title before it’s over.
What makes you think I am for NIL? We were buying players the old fashioned way back when I was in school. Still, if it is legal, might as well take advantage

The portal is the biggest issue to college sports survival.. Not NIL.
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:18 pm to
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What makes you think I am for NIL? We were buying players the old fashioned way back when I was in school. Still, if it is legal, might as well take advantage

The portal is the biggest issue to college sports survival.. Not NIL.

It’s not legal though? The whole issue is that it was never supposed to be a recruitment tool. It’s something the players know is an opportunity once they are in college, but it’s not something boosters are supposed to be able to guarantee for recruits.

So it’s not “taking advantage because it’s legal”. It’s literally not legal
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:18 pm to
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No sure that is where the problem lies. I don't think the courts like the NCAA dictating the terms, and indirectly limiting, the amount of money the kids are allowed to make. This rule probably would indirectly limit how much they make.


There is no limit to how much they can make. The limit is in who can make the offers. People associated with the school, aka boosters, are not allowed to do it.

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:26 pm to
The NCAA acts like they have authority - newsflash for you. They don't any more.
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:31 pm to
I mean they have authority in the sense of still controlling what is and isn’t allowed for participation in their sanctioned sports. It’s not that they lack the power it’s that they’re spineless
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:33 pm to
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That’s the issue people have. It’s not NiL it’s the idea that the richest schools are just buying the best recruits.
This has been happening forever. If you do not think Alabama has been buying recruits then I have a bridge to sell you. They called the booster that did this SEC bag men for a reason
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:35 pm to
Beat way to do this is to Declare any player that accepts NIL opportunities from any local business or school associated boosters business, before they have been enrolled at a school for a full calendar year, ineligible.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 5:37 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:36 pm to
Everything was “ok” until AM went all SMU last cycle.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:37 pm to
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The NCAA acts like they have authority - newsflash for you. They don't any more.




Do you even know what the NCAA is?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:38 pm to
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This has been happening forever. If you do not think Alabama has been buying recruits then I have a bridge to sell you. They called the booster that did this SEC bag men for a reason




A&M already moved into the "Everyone else does it" defense.

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21875 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:40 pm to
Do I think we are paying players? Absolutely. Do I care? Not really. The NCAA cannot trump state and federal laws. This will even if "enacted" get tied up in court for a long, long while.

NCAA is toothless.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:41 pm to
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There goes A&M's class.

Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Bama will be fine, since they can go back to paying players the old way.


Sounds good to me.

Are y'all gonna go back to stealing money from cancer kids?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:42 pm to
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The NCAA cannot trump state and federal laws.

State and federal laws don’t allow boosters to pay kids nor is it legal to pay kids to come to your school, Texas state law included

NIL laws don’t say “anything goes.” That’s just what it’s turned into
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 5:44 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:43 pm to
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A&M already moved into the "Everyone else does it" defense.

You're mad because you can't outspend Aggy under the table anymore.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22612 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Do I think we are paying players? Absolutely. Do I care? Not really. The NCAA cannot trump state and federal laws. This will even if "enacted" get tied up in court for a long, long while.

NCAA is toothless.


Are you directly copying and pasting this from LSU fans, or citing from memory?

Again, this rule does not in any way limit the athletes. It limits the schools and boosters. Which they have every right to do.

I've been telling you guys this shite for weeks.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21875 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:47 pm to
Are you kidding? Tennessee just amended their laws that the collectives can actually interact with the schools.

Like I said, good luck to the NCAA. They lost this fight awhile ago
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22612 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:47 pm to
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You're mad because you can't outspend Aggy under the table anymore.



Alabama recruiting hasn't suffered, so not really sure what your point is.

It's like you guys for some reason believe that you had the only recruiting class last year. Hell, I'm glad it was A&M instead of a team like Georgia or someone else who has been getting good classes. Spreads out the talent, meanwhile Alabama right there, even had a higher average. And it was coming off a historic class in itself.

So maybe it's just about the fact you can't use NIL as a means to recruit directly, there are ways around it, but A&M was too dumb to wait for those ways to kick in.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Are you directly copying and pasting this from LSU fans, or citing from memory?

Again, this rule does not in any way limit the athletes. It limits the schools and boosters. Which they have every right to do.

I've been telling you guys this shite for weeks


And that is a distinction without a difference. It is practically impossible to prove any kind of violation. The fact that a kid got paid is irrelevant. You have to go down all sorts of rabbit trails to prove that shite in it ain't happening. Especially not against somebody with some fricking money like Aggy.

I get it. You are frustrated because the under-the-table fiefdom is now not exclusive. This is what would've happened had there been no NCAA Aggy's arse forever.

Welcome to the new reality.
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