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NCAA commissions task force to separate big money boosters from NIL deals

Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64883 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:13 pm
The age of buying recruiting classes could be coming to an end as quickly as it began.

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SCOTTSDALE Ariz.—College leaders are gearing up to issue a warning to hundreds of wealthy boosters who are using name, image and likeness (NIL) ventures to involve themselves in recruiting.

University administrators, part of a task force to review NIL, are finalizing additional guidelines that are expected to clarify that boosters and booster-led collectives are prohibited from involvement in recruiting, multiple sources tell Sports Illustrated. The guidelines will provide more guidance to member schools on what many administrators say are NIL-disguised “pay for play” deals orchestrated by donors to induce prospects, recruit players off other college teams and retain their own athletes.

The new directives will highlight existing NCAA bylaws that outlaw boosters from participating in recruiting, reminding member schools of guardrails that, while in place for years, have been bent and broken during the first 10 months of the NIL era, officials say. Under a long-held NCAA rule, boosters are a representative arm of an athletic department and are not supposed to associate with or persuade prospects.

The guidelines, still in draft form, outline that booster-backed collectives should be prohibited from associating with high school prospects and college transfers, potentially opening the door for contentious legal challenges between the association and booster groups.


Sports Illustrated
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21443 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:15 pm to
This is why collectives hired legal teams and compliance officials. Will be interesting to watch
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:16 pm to
No one saw this coming right? The NCAA allowing players to be paid turned out a failure?
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6722 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:17 pm to
Lawsuit coming in 3 2 1. . .
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49032 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:17 pm to
There goes A&M's class.


Bama will be fine, since they can go back to paying players the old way.



This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21443 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:18 pm to
Yeah, sure. We aren't the ones advertising everything on Twitter ... not worried
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:20 pm to
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boosters and booster-led collectives are prohibited from involvement in recruiting,


Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:21 pm to
I don’t see how they can enforce this.

How do they distinguish between a collective and a legitimate organization?
Posted by InfoChecker
Member since May 2022
146 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:22 pm to
Verifying.


Due to 74% of power 5 collegiate football teams hiring higher than average costing legal teams, the amount of time consumed in pinpointing an exact penalty and acting on a counter exceeds 6-7 years.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:23 pm to
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I don’t see how they can enforce this.

How do they distinguish between a collective and a legitimate organization?


If there are boosters involved, it's not legitimate.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22687 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:26 pm to
Please tell me how they are going to stop a kid from doing "charity" work at one of these 501c3's. If they put him on a billboard and pay him $100K, and he shows up to 2 make a wish type events a year, that's actually what NIL really is supposed to be about.

They're literally using his name and Likeness to solicit donations.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6884 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:26 pm to
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potentially opening the door for contentious legal challenges between the association and booster groups.


^^^ The only relevant quote in the entire article. Good luck hoping that the NCAA is able to mount a viable legal challenge to the Unite States Supreme court.

Nothing is going to change.
Posted by aujerm
North ATL burbs
Member since Oct 2016
964 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:28 pm to
Limiting income potential is a great way to motivate players to unionize.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Please tell me how they are going to stop a kid from doing "charity" work at one of these 501c3's. If they put him on a billboard and pay him $100K, and he shows up to 2 make a wish type events a year, that's actually what NIL really is supposed to be about.

They're literally using his name and Likeness to solicit donations.


The contracts have to be market value, so if $100k is in the normal range for such work, then it's ok. If you offer them $100k to send you a single tweet, then it's probably not ok.

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:29 pm to
with cheating like this EVERYBODY is Alabama and Georgia
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1117 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:29 pm to
How does this impact funneling money through hospitals?
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2717 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:30 pm to
Seeing how the courts have ruled, can't see this bylaw standing up.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Limiting income potential is a great way to motivate players to unionize.




That would require them to be employees, they are not paid by the universities.

It's the boosters who are not being allowed to do things, not the players.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22687 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:30 pm to
If they try to bar any funds tied to boosters, then the boosters will just use overnight millionaire mules to run the money into the front companies.

There's no way to stop this without some kind of CBA type of agreement... And even then you will never really be able to stop recruiting tactics behind NIL lure.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6884 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

The contracts have to be market value, so if $100k is in the normal range for such work, then it's ok. If you offer them $100k to send you a single tweet, then it's probably not ok.


The Supreme Court shot this down. Hoping it goes away is a pipe dream.

"The NCAA has lost an additional federal court battle on name, image, and likeness (NIL) compensation for student-athletes just days after the U.S. Supreme Court’s unanimous decision confirming the Ninth Circuit’s ruling that the NCAA’s limitation on education-related benefits for student-athletes violates federal antitrust laws."

"The class action lawsuit, filed in June 2020 on behalf of Arizona State University swimmer Grant House and Oregon women’s basketball player Sedona Prince, will continue. The lawsuit seeks to prevent the NCAA from using any bylaws or rules to allow their college and university members to “restrict the amount of name, image, and likeness compensation available” to athletes. It challenges rules prohibiting athletes from being paid for sponsorships or endorsements, being paid for social media influencer sponsorships and using their NIL to promote their own businesses, along with rules that prohibit them from sharing in television revenue made by schools and conferences through group licensing."

NCAA loses additional Student-Athlete Compensation Court Case
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