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NC State '83 team suing over NIL

Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8107 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:55 am
Did not see posted elsewhere.

AP News

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BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Updated 4:11 PM EDT, June 10, 2024

Ten players from North Carolina State’s 1983 national champion basketball team have sued the NCAA and the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image and likeness.

The players filed suit in Wake County Superior Court on Monday, requesting a jury trial and “reasonable compensation.”

The late Jim Valvano’s 1983 team became known as the “Cardiac Pack” for a series of close victories culminating in a 54-52 win over Houston on Lorenzo Charles’ dunk in the final seconds. Valvano’s run around the court became an iconic moment frequently replayed as part of NCAA Tournament promotions.

“For more than 40 years, the NCAA and its co-conspirators have systematically and intentionally misappropriated the Cardiac Pack’s publicity rights — including their names, images, and likenesses — associated with that game and that play, reaping scores of millions of dollars from the Cardiac Pack’s legendary victory,” the lawsuit said.

NCAA spokesperson Michelle Hosick did not immediately return a text message seeking comment Monday from The Associated Press.

Plaintiffs include former team members Thurl Bailey, Alvin Battle, Walt Densmore, Tommy DiNardo, Terry Gannon, George McClain, Cozell McQueen, Walter Proctor, Harold Thompson and Mike Warren.


By the time the dust settles on all of this the only people making any money from college athletics will be lawyers.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:56 am to
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Did not see posted elsewhere.


I can’t imagine why
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14092 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:10 pm to
Always looking for a handout
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8107 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:12 pm to
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I can’t imagine why


tRant posters generally don't read the news.

HTH
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
4585 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:24 pm to
Hope they win. Just another court case for the NCAA to lose.
Posted by BulldogDX
Member since Mar 2011
913 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:29 pm to
If they can prove who made money off of their moniker and how much, they've probably got a case. I know I'd hate it if others made a ton of money off of my likeness WHILE I'M STILL ALIVE and I didn't see a penny of it.

It's thievery, plain and simple.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5788 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Walter Proctor,
Just to give you an idea of how much justice as been denied to Walker "Dinky" Proctor, he averaged 1.1 points per game in his 39 games at NC State. The man deserves every penny for all the jerseys and Wolfpack merch sold because of his stardom.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8107 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:48 pm to
I'm not an attorney and simply don't understand the law in this area.

Everyone involved in college athletics has made money from the NIL of amateur athletes prior to the SCOTUS ruling. If every former athlete sues the NCAA and their respective institutions, there simply won't be enough beans in the pile to go around.

How many MSU Dak Prescott jerseys have been sold in the state of MS?
How much does Arkansas owe Corliss Williamson? UGA to Herschel Walker? Alabama to Forest Gump? I have no idea where it all ends.

Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3400 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:49 pm to
The elephant in the room is mostly the NCAA taking advantage. Now only recently (last 10-15 yrs) have profits seemed like they've skyrocketed so not sure what case they have. If the NCAA can prove that their education and amenities were worth comparably to what an income could've been I bet this gets shelved.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
65464 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:13 pm to
The NCAA opened this Pandora’s box. I hope these suits continue and bankrupts them into oblivion.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68601 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:17 pm to
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“For more than 40 years, the NCAA and its co-conspirators have systematically and intentionally misappropriated the Cardiac Pack’s publicity rights — including their names, images, and likenesses — associated with that game and that play, reaping scores of millions of dollars from the Cardiac Pack’s legendary victory,” the lawsuit said.

I'm not sure I follow. Are they alleging showing highlights of their famous play was an infringement on their NIL rights?

They can't be serious with this. The NCAA has a lot on it's plate, and rightfully so, but that's a big stretch.

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:50 pm to
Phi Slamma Jamma, Hoya Paranoia, Fab 5, Doctors of Dunk, Duo of Doom (Elden Campbell and Dale Davis at Clemson for those who don't know), etc. I can see a lot of lawsuits incoming. I hope they run the NCAA out of business.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
7449 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:57 pm to
Shoulda done this about 20 years ago. Don't think this will work now.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10260 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:52 pm to
If EA Sports had only given 10 percent off their sales of the game to Ed O'Bannon
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10260 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:14 pm to
Oh good god guys. It's been 41 fgn years. These reporation suits are stupid. I guess we need to pay the 76 UGA defensive players for all the Junkyard Dawg t-shirts and car tags? The Fab 5, Phi Slamma Jamma and offensive players in the "fun n gun" at Florida will have claims. Enjoy being the cardiac pack and what you accomplished. I don't agree with Reggie Bush being given back his heisman or anything else that happened prior to NIL being a formal document. If you got a nickname, award, national title, etc before pay for play was legal and you broke the rules that were in place at that time then you are fricked as far as I am concerned.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8107 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 5:33 pm to
Indeed.

My current theory is that this case is a trial balloon. If it even remotely has legs, they will go for class action status.

Then it will be just like the Tobacco settlement. The lawyers will all get rich AF and each of the athletes will get roughly $137.

Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6445 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 5:36 pm to
The NCAA has done a shitty job but they simply can't keep up with the lawsuits that are never ending. The entity that takes over won't do much better.

This suit is absurd.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
2576 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 5:42 pm to
This is stupid. They signed on the dotted line. They knew the score at the time. Now they just want that handout
Posted by Dieselmike
Member since Jun 2024
139 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 5:59 pm to
They were such a fun team to watch. What a great tournament NC state played.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45920 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 6:06 pm to
So much for amateur athletics. I can't wait for kids who played in the little league world series to get lawyered up.
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