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re: Nate Oats and Eric Musselman were amazing hires for Alabama and Arkansas
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:20 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:20 am to thunderbird1100
Two decent hires for sure but there isn’t room in the top 5 right now. Both are better than Cal, Pearl, Barnes, Wade? Really?
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:20 am to thunderbird1100
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mean they werent necessarily outside the top half of the league in the recent past, they always seemed stuck on the bubble just looking out around 5th-8th or so in SEC...kind of like this year
Except this year we're doing it while half of our roster is injured. Only had 7 scholarship players available against Arkansas.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 7:23 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:23 am to auburnnyc94
quote:Well, he's talking about actual coaching ability not just recruiting ability. Two of the guys you listed are only good at recruiting. I'll let you figure out which two.
Two decent hires for sure but there isn’t room in the top 5 right now. Both are better than Cal, Pearl, Barnes, Wade? Really?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:31 am to Gcockboi
Just be thankful LSU didn't go with Musselman a few years ago.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:34 am to nastywideouts
All 4 of those guys are excellent X’s and O’s coaches. Also, he just said top 5 coaches. Recruiting is a massive part of the job.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:36 am to nastywideouts
Those 4 + Kermit, Buzz, and maybe Frank Martin are better X’s and O’s coaches than Oats by the way. I’ll let Muss be included
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:59 am to auburnnyc94
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Recruiting is a massive part of the job.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:06 am to Arkapigdiesel
Yes, Muss is the real deal
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:09 am to nastywideouts
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Two of the guys you listed are only good at recruiting. I'll let you figure out which two.
You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think Will Wade isn’t doing a good job on the bench. We’re severely undersized and killing everyone on the glass and like top 10 in the nation in offensive efficiency.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:16 am to Elleshoe
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You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think Will Wade isn’t doing a good job on the bench. We’re severely undersized and killing everyone on the glass and like top 10 in the nation in offensive efficiency.
Will Wade is awesome all around.. that's why most of us are hoping his strong arse offers can end him
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:25 am to auburnnyc94
Ain’t gonna happen to the American Gangster. AD is fam with the NCAA prez
Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:34 am to Gcockboi
quote:I completely agree. The vast majority of the Alabama fan base are extremely happy with our new coach and the attitude he's brought to the program. I've watched Musselman coach several times this year, and am very impressed with his approach and success with the players he inherited. I suspect that The Tide and The Hogs will be heard from in basketball for some years to come.
Both are top 5 coaches in the SEC. It's crazy what Musselman has already accomplished with a squad that doesn't have a player over 6'7" on it. He's probably the best x's and o's coach in the conference. Arkansas will go back to their glory days with him.
Nate Oats is another amazing x's and o's coach. After this year Alabama will be a tournament team every year under him.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:27 am to coachcrisp
In my opinion, Nate Oats is a "good" coach but will face a difficult time attracting 'high level' basketball recruits to Tuscaloosa. I'm not expecting a whole lot more than what we've seen the last few years. A potential 'bubble' team with an occasional NCAA bid. Just can't attract enough top notch recruits on a consistent basis.
Auburn decided to take Pearl "warts and all" because he is a great coach AND dynamic recruiter and in my opinion, the decision has really paid off for them.
Arkansas traditionally is a better basketball program than Alabama so it's about time they get someone to get them going again.
Oats is really facing an uphill battle at Alabama. Maybe my opinion will change and this year is really a wash due to being his first year. Add in the injuries and the fact he's missing some 'ballers' as someone pointed out. Can he get those 'ballers' to come play at Bama? I mean real Basketball talent, great skills and high basketball 'IQ'. Not project players that maybe have raw athletic ability but minimal basketball skills and no actual real knowledge of the game. Time will tell but I remain skeptical for now.
Auburn decided to take Pearl "warts and all" because he is a great coach AND dynamic recruiter and in my opinion, the decision has really paid off for them.
Arkansas traditionally is a better basketball program than Alabama so it's about time they get someone to get them going again.
Oats is really facing an uphill battle at Alabama. Maybe my opinion will change and this year is really a wash due to being his first year. Add in the injuries and the fact he's missing some 'ballers' as someone pointed out. Can he get those 'ballers' to come play at Bama? I mean real Basketball talent, great skills and high basketball 'IQ'. Not project players that maybe have raw athletic ability but minimal basketball skills and no actual real knowledge of the game. Time will tell but I remain skeptical for now.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:36 am to TS1926
The style of ball he plays is perfect for recruiting kids who may not be elite coming out of H.S., but athletic. It's a fun style with a lot of "street ball" in it, and the array of young players who fit well in it is huge. The key to its success, IMO, is being able to get this type of kid to play 40 minutes of hard, focused defense.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:38 am to Gcockboi
Im very happy with Oats.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:45 am to coachcrisp
That's a great point that I forgot about. His style of play should always keep Bama competitive. And for the record, I think he was the best hire Bama could make. My attitude is towards the program in general and not necessarily towards Nate Oats as a basketball coach.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:50 am to TS1926
Listen, if Nate Oats was able to recruit 4 star basketball recruits to the University of Buffalo, trust me, he can convince them to attend Alabama. While I get that Alabama may not be the most prestigious basketball school in the SEC, compared to Buffalo, it may as well be Madison Square Garden.
Just look at our vaunted rankings on aesthetically pleasing universities. Or perhaps he was able to convince them to enjoy Narnia (where it is always winter and never Christmas). Trust me, Oats will be fine.
Just look at our vaunted rankings on aesthetically pleasing universities. Or perhaps he was able to convince them to enjoy Narnia (where it is always winter and never Christmas). Trust me, Oats will be fine.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:53 am to Gcockboi
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Both are top 5 coaches in the SEC. It's crazy what Musselman has already accomplished with a squad that doesn't have a player over 6'7" on it. He's probably the best x's and o's coach in the conference. Arkansas will go back to their glory days with him.
Nate Oats is another amazing x's and o's coach. After this year Alabama will be a tournament team every year under him.
Also both coaches aren't cheating scumbags like a few in the conference.
What are you basing your assessment on ? I do not think any of the previous coaches left the cupboard bare.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:56 am to Gcockboi
They make great whipping posts for Will Wade.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:57 am to Irons Puppet
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I do not think any of the previous coaches left the cupboard bare.
Cupboard wasn't bare for sure but Mike did a terrible job with roster management in terms of distributions before he left. Arkansas has one decent player taller than 6'6'' before Musselman got there.
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