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re: Napier again tells MSU ... no
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:01 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:01 pm to Jjdoc
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Come on man. Be better. You know better too. Here you are 1 year ago:
Yeah, that's just an opinion I had and still do.
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SO if you want to honest, do so.
When haven't I been? I also posted I think State is a school where we need continuity at the coaching position. I still feel that way. Are you asking me about how I feel about the canning of Joe? the only thing I'm sure of is this was the softest team I can recall of Mississippi State at least since Croom's first year and never under Jackie. We totally regressed in fundamentals and line play. Why don't you be honest about that?
Do I agree we should have canned Joe? Actually, I'm indifferent about it because at the end of the day, I've been a State fan long enough to know that good or bad I'm still going to follow and pull for State. I lived through the Croom years and the 80's. I also lived through the John Bond, SEC West, and Mullen days. It's a cycle. I can actually see it both ways being good and I can also see it playing out real bad for us.
I remember people thinking firing Croom or Jackie was a horrible idea. You can't fire Jackie, he won the west for yall and it will only get worse. Croom was worse but even he got us to a bowl game and then, you can't fire Croom. He got you to a bowl game, off probation, etc. and we ended up with a guy that got us to No. 1. So if this next hire doesn't work out, so be it, we will move on to the next one.
One thing I'm sure of is how bizarre your behavior is about all this. You've started a multitude of posts over it when it really you could put all yours in one. Attention seeking? What's your stake in it? To be right? What if you're wrong?
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:01 pm to rockiee
I come here and see this dumb arse guy posting all these stupid fricking questions.
It’s Sunday. I’m sure news will leak but no one knows shite yet. Give it a rest. God damn
It’s Sunday. I’m sure news will leak but no one knows shite yet. Give it a rest. God damn
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:02 pm to Jjdoc
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Now, Saban said he would not be the coach at Bama too
Let's remember...Saban was still coaching a team that had football games left to play
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:02 pm to GetCocky11
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Starkville is like 5 minutes from Alabama.
Columbus, MS might as well be Alabama with so many tshirt fans.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:04 pm to tOGLettuce
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I come here and see this dumb arse guy posting all these stupid fricking questions.
It’s Sunday. I’m sure news will leak but no one knows shite yet. Give it a rest. God damn
He has made 5-10 threads since Joe was fired. He has been hellbent on defending him. Even if he is right regarding Joe, it is so strange to see him defend someone this hard. Especially when he claims to be a "Bama fan".
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:06 pm to FratDaddyReb
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Go over to MSU’s forum elitedawgs.com
Nafoom.com for the real intelligent bunch of narcissistic goobs that think their better than everyone else.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:18 pm to tOGLettuce
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Dude, I’m here to maybe help you.
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Who’s our number #2?
Well it seems the fans #1 was Napier. I’m not sure who’s Cohens first interview was with.
It’s being reported he interviewed 5 or so coaches over the weekend.
Right, we got all those names.
So the break down looks like this:
- Napier. Seems to be a good choice, but also see him as short term. However, he says no publicly and we all know it may not be true. He does have a bowl game tomorrow.
- Hudspeth. Already made his staff aware that he is not interviewing for the job. He has the NCAA stench still.
- Chiz... Was great with an OC who had Cam. But with out him he could not maintain that level of winning. Did not leave Auburn great either.
- Monken. Impressive man, but his offense ain't going to work in the SEC and the sheer amount of time to rebuild for a decent style of offense will set you back for a total of 7 years with him staying 2 to 3.
- Calhoun. That could be the best option of EVERY person listed. But he will be hired to boos by the fan base and not given enough time.
- Judge. Unproven, but will be a great HC at some point. The issue again is are you willing to get him and allow him the time to grow. If not, bad blood between a MSU grad/player/ etc.
- Grantham. In no way can this be serious. A head coach that yells at the opposing team bench would be great to see, but come on. As a DC... fine. As a HC.. zero experience.
So I don't know who would be the #2 in that.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:24 pm to Jjdoc
Ok.
No one knows.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
No one knows.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:47 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Cohen's a baseball guy. So, I will go with Jake Gautreau.
So I don't know who would be the #2 in that.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:02 pm to Cdawg
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I also posted I think State is a school where we need continuity at the coaching position. I still feel that way.
Then you should have kept Moorhead and allowed him his mistakes.
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Are you asking me about how I feel about the canning of Joe? the only thing I'm sure of is this was the softest team I can recall of Mississippi State at least since Croom's first year and never under Jackie. We totally regressed in fundamentals and line play. Why don't you be honest about that?
I wasn't really asking you that, but at least you gave an actual reason. My thoughts? You had a shite storm created outside of Moorhead's control and he learned a huge lesson in the middle of it that he needed to learn from a HC stand point at this level.
Shite storm =s poor roster management by Mullen felt in year 2, compounded by the 11 suspended (it included your starting basketball player so it's not a Moorhead issue), and injuries that normally happen but meant more due to the first 2 pieces. I'm shocked you won 6.
His positives were that he recruited a well above average roster and corrected Mullen's mistakes. He was also willing to change things up.
His negatives were listening to the noise and be reactionary to it. Ms ST isn't the place for that.
On line play, the DL did friggin awesome considering your circumstances. You guys are set for the next 3 years on defense. The OL was a puzzle this year. While I understand being thin and the need, I thought it a mistake to teach every guy every position. Just excel at the one. Most of those OL trained under and for Mullen's offense... so focus on the one position for the new offense. Maybe another mistake.
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Do I agree we should have canned Joe? Actually, I'm indifferent about it because at the end of the day, I've been a State fan long enough to know that good or bad I'm still going to follow and pull for State. I lived through the Croom years and the 80's. I also lived through the John Bond, SEC West, and Mullen days. It's a cycle. I can actually see it both ways being good and I can also see it playing out real bad for us.
Level headed guy! You need more of you.
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I remember people thinking firing Croom or Jackie was a horrible idea. You can't fire Jackie, he won the west for yall and it will only get worse. Croom was worse but even he got us to a bowl game and then, you can't fire Croom. He got you to a bowl game, off probation, etc. and we ended up with a guy that got us to No. 1. So if this next hire doesn't work out, so be it, we will move on to the next one.
It could have been worse. The difference is you made sure Croom was not the guy. You gave him what? 5 years?
You can't repeat this process again with whomever you hire. You will be the next UT.
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One thing I'm sure of is how bizarre your behavior is about all this. You've started a multitude of posts over it when it really you could put all yours in one. Attention seeking? What's your stake in it? To be right? What if you're wrong?
I'm not sure I have ever seen a fan base so over the top( outside of UT) to fire a coach for winning.
I'm pretty sure I have never seen a small group of people band together and start a rumor to remove a coach at the risk of recruiting etc after a year and a half.
Couple that with my close friends within the program and I am intrigued. It was just 6 months ago, he was excited even though he knew the suspensions were in place. Now the whole family is pissed at the outside influence that forced this. They see it as the inmates running the show who operate on pure emotions ruling out all facts. Does that mean they take their marbles and go home. No. Not at all. But it doesn't look good on the AD.
Moorhead is gone. He isn't coming back. SO I started a thread to say who is #2 on your list because #1 says no... And it turns into a thread on Moorhead.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:02 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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Let's remember...Saban was still coaching a team that had football games left to play
So is Napier.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:14 pm to Jjdoc
I’m still not sure what you are wanting out of the SEC rant. You’ve covered about every angle of this.
I’m sorry this has you so fricked up. I really am. I can’t imagine ever spending so much time and energy on a topic. Your obsession is kinda weird, borderline, erotic.
I’m sorry this has you so fricked up. I really am. I can’t imagine ever spending so much time and energy on a topic. Your obsession is kinda weird, borderline, erotic.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:43 pm to Jjdoc
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It could have been worse. The difference is you made sure Croom was not the guy. You gave him what? 5 years?
It was 3 years too long though. Finally Greg Byrne came in and shook things up or Croom would have been there 5 more with Templeton.
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I'm shocked you won 6.
Vegas had us at 8.5 wins this year even after the issues were known. You did too if I recall. So you think we should have lost to Kstate at home in the fashion we did? We should have lost to UT? I know road games are tough in the SEC but the Vols are not a good team. What didyou think of the bowl game?
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I'm not sure I have ever seen a fan base so over the top( outside of UT) to fire a coach for winning.
really? Serious?
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it doesn't look good on the AD.
You follow State. Cohen is an a-hole. This is common knowledge. But to a fault, he's our a-hole.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:44 pm to Jjdoc
Drop the charade dude,you ain't fooling anyone and don't worry we got a coach and he is much better than your hero Joe.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:50 pm to stateofplay
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They are nervous and were hoping we would keep Moorhead so they could have a guaranteed win on their schedule.
You could get Saban in his prime andyoud still be damn near a guaranteed win every year.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:11 pm to Cdawg
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It was 3 years too long though.
Based on?
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Vegas had us at 8.5 wins this year even after the issues were known. You did too if I recall.
Before I knew the issues. But stood by my picks.
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. So you think we should have lost to Kstate at home in the fashion we did?
I think it's one of the games that the shite storm wrecked. A veteran team verses a depleted team on defense and injuries to your QBs.
Do you think if Murphy, Gay and the others suspended were playing they run a kick off all the way back? Both those play on STs. That one of those 2 does not make a play or create a turn over?
Do you think if KT would have been healthy that Shrader would have seen the field? I don't.
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We should have lost to UT?
On Paper, yes.
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What did you think of the bowl game?
Same thing I thought all year. Shite storm and it wont end until the season does and changes are made.
All I'm saying is that it was the worst thing that could happen and it happened. Bad Roster, suspensions and injuries amplified all of it for most of the year and it would any team.
Look at us. How many freshmen on our Defense? would you call our defense the Bama standard? They looked soft to me, but I know it's not due to a soft coach. Our rush defense dropped to 37th. Do you have our roster? No.
I have no doubts that had Steven's never been injured and you had not had the suspensions, you would have won 8
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You follow State. Cohen is an a-hole. This is common knowledge. But to a fault, he's our a-hole.
I wasn't talking from the fans point of view. I'm speaking money.
But it's over for now.
So my question Cdawg, is how long will you give a Judge?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:31 pm to Jjdoc
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Based on?
Are you serious? I can see where you're coming from with your Moorhead argument but not this one.
Joe Judge? I'm not sure. I haven't seen him be a head coach yet. But according to your recruiting scouting report, he should be able to win 6 next year. I think he would be given a longer rope unless he wants to tell me to pound sand.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:32 pm to Jjdoc
Why can’t you ask me? What is your agenda?
Are you asking how long we would keep a supposed new coach? Assuming it’s Judge?
State will keep him as long as he wins 6/7 + eggbowl. It’s hard to win in the west.
What’s more likely to happen, instead of him staying forever...which I guess you are a fan of...he will likely be poached if he has success.
I’m still fuxking confused on what exactly you are wanting people to say...what questions you are asking...and to what point you are trying to make.
This is obviously not an intellectual Mecca....but you are a new level of dumb. This place never surprises me lol
Are you asking how long we would keep a supposed new coach? Assuming it’s Judge?
State will keep him as long as he wins 6/7 + eggbowl. It’s hard to win in the west.
What’s more likely to happen, instead of him staying forever...which I guess you are a fan of...he will likely be poached if he has success.
I’m still fuxking confused on what exactly you are wanting people to say...what questions you are asking...and to what point you are trying to make.
This is obviously not an intellectual Mecca....but you are a new level of dumb. This place never surprises me lol
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:36 pm to tOGLettuce
He wants y’all to admit that y’all made a mistake and you overstepped your position in the sport which is dumb.
I tried to get y’all to admit Moorhead couldn’t possibly be an upgrade over Mullen years ago and y’all refused to.
Bulldog means stubborn and he needs to give it a rest before y’all steal Arky’s offseason title.
I tried to get y’all to admit Moorhead couldn’t possibly be an upgrade over Mullen years ago and y’all refused to.
Bulldog means stubborn and he needs to give it a rest before y’all steal Arky’s offseason title.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:50 pm to cardboardboxer
State has won more games over the last 10 years than 3/4 of the conference.
I’m not sure where all of this is coming from. We are trying to maintain pace with teams inside of the SEC west. It’s not just Ole Miss and Kiffin. My god. It’s Jimbo, CNS, Ed O , Kiffin ect..
The town has absolutely exploded in the last ten years. It’s new. The consistency has never been seen by our fan base.
It’s made the town a shite ton of money. Locals becoming millionaire due to volume of our football games.
You can’t unbuild restaurants, tear down hotels, cut lights out in the cotton district. It’s not an option.
The trajectory and trends...except for this last year...have been moving upward. MSU has a taste of winning football. We will do everything as a university to maintain it. If that means fire a coach in two years, so be it.
MSU ain’t going back to sub 500 football.
I’m not sure where all of this is coming from. We are trying to maintain pace with teams inside of the SEC west. It’s not just Ole Miss and Kiffin. My god. It’s Jimbo, CNS, Ed O , Kiffin ect..
The town has absolutely exploded in the last ten years. It’s new. The consistency has never been seen by our fan base.
It’s made the town a shite ton of money. Locals becoming millionaire due to volume of our football games.
You can’t unbuild restaurants, tear down hotels, cut lights out in the cotton district. It’s not an option.
The trajectory and trends...except for this last year...have been moving upward. MSU has a taste of winning football. We will do everything as a university to maintain it. If that means fire a coach in two years, so be it.
MSU ain’t going back to sub 500 football.
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