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re: My plea for a factual explanation of how TM7 hit on Dre was Dirty/Flagrant

Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:07 am to
Posted by tweaver18
Monroe/Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
187 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:07 am to
quote:

But when he swung for the head
I'm with Eighteen on this. What are you watching man?
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:08 am to
Another "going for the head" comment

Stupid arse people

Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:09 am to
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But that was intentional and shouldn't be defended. Not even by homers.




Thank you for your fact-less opinion, homer.

His intent was to make a play as best he could to make up for being beat. He tried a technique that is legal. He messed up by grabbing jersey. The only thing that hit Dre's head was the ground. If his forearm had hit Dre's helmet, chances are he would have broken a bone in his arm.

Dispute any of this with more than "I've decided TM is a POS, and if you disagree, so are you", because that's all you have said thus far.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:10 am to
If TM7 was swinging for his head, he would have hit his head.

He takes what he wants if you haven't noticed.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:12 am to
quote:

TotalYatMove


STFU douchebag. If you don't want opinions, don't make threads.

Why go high at all? Why not go low? Like a baseball player sliding into home plate. Heels are low, it's clean, heels high and aimed at the knees, that's dirty as frick.
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 2:00 am
Posted by glock22josh
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
517 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:16 am to
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He clearly hits him in the head


From both videos posted it is clear he catches his right shoulder pad.
Posted by Bamer
Earth
Member since Oct 2011
16 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:16 am to
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And the 33 second mark of the video shows that he was trying to explain what he tried to do. Do you really think he told the coach "I wanted hit that guy in the head" while making that motion?

The only thing he was explaning is continuing his frustration.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:16 am to
And did anyone even notice HB wasn't outraged at all? Nothing.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:17 am to
Watch the video and tell me where he hits him in the head.

Rolltiderockstar...you are an idiot

Someone please make a gif for this moron
Posted by glock22josh
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
517 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:18 am to
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that's dirty as frick


If he was truly trying to injure him and obviously ready to be dirty as you think, why not just bowl over him from behind when he slows for the tackle?
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:18 am to
Why would HB be outraged?
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:19 am to
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STFU douchebag.


Wow, relax. Don't respond with terrible arguments if getting called out makes you this angry.

quote:

Why go high at all? Why not go low?


So a low blow is better than one to the chest? Also, that wasn't the technique he was taught.

quote:

Like a baseball player sliding into home plate. Heels are low, it's clean, heels high and aimed at the knees, that's dirty as frick.


Don't get upset, but that's a terrible comparison.
Posted by tweaver18
Monroe/Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
187 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:19 am to
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He clearly hits him in the head
C'mon man. The close shot shows he doesn't hit him in the head. He hits him in the shoulder/chest.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7222 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:20 am to
I clearly see TM reach around Dre's head and poked him in the eyes. Then got Dre to hit his hand and TM's hand windmilled around to bop Dre on top of the head. Then I heard Dre say, "Why...I...oouughta..."
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:24 am to
Ok. I don't think he hits him in the head. I think the blow lands near the shoulder just below the facemask. I will say you can't separate the "chest punch" as a legal move and the holding as a mistake. They are all one motion, one move. It was from behind on a sprinting player. It was obviously intentional. I've played enough football to know this was a cheap shot, even if technically legal. Anyone who's played football (and isn't biased for LSU) would have to agree.

I have a hard time believing this is a technique taught. I would like to see another video of Mathieu performing a "chest punch" on a player sprinting to cover a punt. Thanks.

ETA: I have no clue what my fellow Bama fans are saying about him clearly hitting him in the head. But I have no clue what you're saying about that little twitch his right arm does near the sideline. His arm swings a little, but doesn't even go above his waist. How can that possibly mean "chest"?
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 1:27 am
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:24 am to
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The only thing he was explaning is continuing his frustration.


quote:

And did anyone even notice HB wasn't outraged at all? Nothing.


So frustrated, but not outraged? Is that right?

Come on guys. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say at this point. He shouldn't be frustrated, but he should be outraged. And yall can confirm this by watching him on TV?

And if you are honest with yourself, that arm motion was clearly to mimic what he did on the field and what he was taught. It wasn't a casual arm swing, and it wasn't an "aw shucks" motion. It was an explanation. He explained it in words the next day.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33926 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:27 am to
quote:

RollTideRockStar


Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85828 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:28 am to
tell you what everyone. To end all this I am going to make the video a gif, but use photoshop to slow each frame down and pause it at the initial contact. Give me a few and it will be done.
Posted by TigerBwoy
0.4 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2009
6345 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:29 am to
quote:

He clearly hits him in the head.




Clearly.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:31 am to
quote:

TotalYatMove


Ever been pissed, taken a swing and then right after remorse set in?

Eighteen. Go to bed kid.
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