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re: My 100% honest, no bullshite, no bias SEC program all time rankings
Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:19 am to BreakawayZou83
Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:19 am to BreakawayZou83
I think you almost have to just look at it in tiers
Tier 1 - Alabama - really no question they are head and shoulders above everyone when it comes to history and recent history. National Championships, Heisman trophy winners, probably the 2 best coaches in history.
Tier 2 - Oklahoma, UGA, LSU - I'm looking at Oklahoma's history here and not just focusing on what they've done since coming to the SEC. All 3 are top 10 programs historically and UGA is arguably the best program in college football right now. UGA has maybe the best college football player ever in Herschel and LSU has arguably the best team of all time.
Tier 3- Texas, Auburn, UT and Florida - All have national championships and have different moments throughout every decade where they were a contender and all have moments in those same decades where they were somewhat irrelevant. Peyton, Cam, Tebow, and Vince Young are 4 of the 7 best college qbs I've ever seen.
Tier 4- Ole Miss, Arkansas, A&M- Big swings here with these teams of being really good and really terrible. Ole Miss has been better lately, but A&M can be a monster with NIL and Arkansas should be if they can get their billionaires committed. Manziel is one of the 5 most memorable college football players of the last 20 years in my opinion and the Mannings are the first family of football and that started at Ole Miss.
Tier 5- Missouri & South Carolina- Had a great run when they first came to the SEC, but not sure they have the names to be included with the tier 4 group. Honestly I don't know who the best players in their program history are besides Kellen Winslow. USC has had some incredible players but just don't remember them being much of a player in the SEC in my lifetime.
Tier 6- State, Kentucky, Vandy - Think they've each had longer stretches of being irrelevant than anyone else. Not as many famous names and just fewer memorable seasons or moments.
Tier 1 - Alabama - really no question they are head and shoulders above everyone when it comes to history and recent history. National Championships, Heisman trophy winners, probably the 2 best coaches in history.
Tier 2 - Oklahoma, UGA, LSU - I'm looking at Oklahoma's history here and not just focusing on what they've done since coming to the SEC. All 3 are top 10 programs historically and UGA is arguably the best program in college football right now. UGA has maybe the best college football player ever in Herschel and LSU has arguably the best team of all time.
Tier 3- Texas, Auburn, UT and Florida - All have national championships and have different moments throughout every decade where they were a contender and all have moments in those same decades where they were somewhat irrelevant. Peyton, Cam, Tebow, and Vince Young are 4 of the 7 best college qbs I've ever seen.
Tier 4- Ole Miss, Arkansas, A&M- Big swings here with these teams of being really good and really terrible. Ole Miss has been better lately, but A&M can be a monster with NIL and Arkansas should be if they can get their billionaires committed. Manziel is one of the 5 most memorable college football players of the last 20 years in my opinion and the Mannings are the first family of football and that started at Ole Miss.
Tier 5- Missouri & South Carolina- Had a great run when they first came to the SEC, but not sure they have the names to be included with the tier 4 group. Honestly I don't know who the best players in their program history are besides Kellen Winslow. USC has had some incredible players but just don't remember them being much of a player in the SEC in my lifetime.
Tier 6- State, Kentucky, Vandy - Think they've each had longer stretches of being irrelevant than anyone else. Not as many famous names and just fewer memorable seasons or moments.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:21 pm to Yokelhoma
College football didn’t start in 1936. It’s really vague but I count from 1916 when the Rose Bowl began being played continuously. It was the beginning of the nationalization of the game since teams from across the country played the top team from the West Coast. It was the only national bowl until around 1930.
Alabama was the first team from the “despised South (only 60 years after the end of the Civil War), who couldn’t compete. Some predicted a 50 point loss. Alabama won 20-19, finishing a 10-0 season. They did the same in 1926, 1930, 1934. The only blemish being a tie with Pop Warner’s previously undefeated and untied Stanford team, with whom Alabama shares the NC.
So, yes Alabama claims those legitimate NCs. 10-0 (9-0-1 in 26) and the winner of the only bowl in the country in the first 2 or 3 with only a couple or a few more by 1934.
When Alabama won at the end of the ‘25 season (technically Jan 1,1926), the entire South celebrated and had receptions for the conquering heroes as it travelled by train back home to Tuscaloosa. One stop was was in N.O., La. Even AU fans cheered as the game was tracked in theaters throughout Alabama, as they would receive updates via telegraph and convey the progress on some type of board in the theaters.
From 1925-1945 when Alabama and the rest of the country were available to go, Alabama was 4-1-1 vs the West Coast representative, the rest of the county was 4-11. The Rose Bowl limited the competition to only Big 10 teams beginning in 1946 and did not reopen until a little more than a half century later.
Alabama closed out the open era in 1945 with a resounding 34-14 (much worse than the score indicated) win vs USC, handing them their first Rose Bowl loss after having won their previous 9.
Yes, college football was alive and well prior to 1936 and Alabama was a big part of it and rightfully claims those NCs. Alabama finished 10-0 that year outscoring the opposition 430-80 and beating 4 ranked teams. They did not win the NC that year, nor do they claim it - Army had a greater team and won it.
Alabama was the first team from the “despised South (only 60 years after the end of the Civil War), who couldn’t compete. Some predicted a 50 point loss. Alabama won 20-19, finishing a 10-0 season. They did the same in 1926, 1930, 1934. The only blemish being a tie with Pop Warner’s previously undefeated and untied Stanford team, with whom Alabama shares the NC.
So, yes Alabama claims those legitimate NCs. 10-0 (9-0-1 in 26) and the winner of the only bowl in the country in the first 2 or 3 with only a couple or a few more by 1934.
When Alabama won at the end of the ‘25 season (technically Jan 1,1926), the entire South celebrated and had receptions for the conquering heroes as it travelled by train back home to Tuscaloosa. One stop was was in N.O., La. Even AU fans cheered as the game was tracked in theaters throughout Alabama, as they would receive updates via telegraph and convey the progress on some type of board in the theaters.
From 1925-1945 when Alabama and the rest of the country were available to go, Alabama was 4-1-1 vs the West Coast representative, the rest of the county was 4-11. The Rose Bowl limited the competition to only Big 10 teams beginning in 1946 and did not reopen until a little more than a half century later.
Alabama closed out the open era in 1945 with a resounding 34-14 (much worse than the score indicated) win vs USC, handing them their first Rose Bowl loss after having won their previous 9.
Yes, college football was alive and well prior to 1936 and Alabama was a big part of it and rightfully claims those NCs. Alabama finished 10-0 that year outscoring the opposition 430-80 and beating 4 ranked teams. They did not win the NC that year, nor do they claim it - Army had a greater team and won it.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:41 pm to tattoo
Even without Bryant and Saban, Alabama has 5 NCs. They would still be leading the old SEC and even with OU and UTx, they would be ahead of Texas and second, 2 behind OU.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:41 pm to Yokelhoma
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Bama doesn't have 16 national titles, lol.
They claim 18. I think 16 are recognized.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 4:53 pm to Boom33
quote:Please explain
4. LSU
5. Georgia
These could go either way; I gave it to LSU because I think their NC are slightly better
Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:01 pm to Red Eagle
Lmao that’s a horrible list.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:04 pm to VFL67
Eh, no. I think it was the 6 titles Saban won that did it.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:10 pm to Demosthenian
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Please explain
1980 was a very weak schedule. The weakest likely being a few years later with BYU. It was just some weird thing with that time period. I would put 2003 above this easily.
It's not your team's fault or anything and I'm certainly not saying they aren't valid, but in 2021 you probably shouldn't have been there to begin with. Maybe you could say LSU's 2007 was similar, but they still made it in the top2, so a slight edge or wash at best.
2022 was a great season, but then LSU has 2019 so a slight edge there as well because they played a much more difficult schedule.
They are close enough that I'm fine with them in either order, but I had to give the edge to LSU.
What would be your argument for putting Georgia above them?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:43 pm to VFL67
Auburn owns Tennessee. I’ve seen Auburn lose three times to Auburn in my life. We’ve won 4 NC to your 1
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:46 pm to tattoo
Auburn lost to UGA in 2017 after dog walking Georgia two weeks before. Are you on drugs?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:56 pm to MizzouTrue
I will try..but guarantee it will piss people off
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia
5. Texas
6. LSU
7. Florida
8. Auburn
9. Aggies
10. Ole Miss
11. Arky
12.South Carolina.
13. Mizzou
14.Miss State
15. UK
16. Vandy
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia
5. Texas
6. LSU
7. Florida
8. Auburn
9. Aggies
10. Ole Miss
11. Arky
12.South Carolina.
13. Mizzou
14.Miss State
15. UK
16. Vandy
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:38 am to MizzouTrue
If you ain’t first, you last
RMFT
RMFT
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 2:39 am
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:02 am to Cimarron
I didn’t mean that there was a chasm but NCs are the primary measure to me, assuming they were not confined to a short period of time which is not the case for Alabama and 17-7 in that dept is a big difference. Since Alabama and OU are within shouting distance of each other in most of the other categories, I consider 17-7 a big number for such a difficult achievement. I would be surprised if anyone wins 10 in the next 100 years. IMO, you are top 5 nationally. until ~10 years ago I would have put you ahead of OSU. I would say Alabama, ND/OSU, USC/OU. IMO, 2-5 can change a lot in the next 10 years but for the moment it seems really hard to unseat Alabama. They have 5 NCs, just 2 behind you, without Saban or Bryant, who both have 6 at Alabama. OU has a great history and a great will to win, it’s palpable.
On a non football related subject, I’ve been exposed to Oklahoma people, state not necessarily the University, a good bit in the last few years and have been incredibly impressed. If I were forced to move and had my choice I would move there or at least check it out. first.
On a non football related subject, I’ve been exposed to Oklahoma people, state not necessarily the University, a good bit in the last few years and have been incredibly impressed. If I were forced to move and had my choice I would move there or at least check it out. first.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:09 am to Yokelhoma
Disagree completely. It was certainly much closer but IMO, for reasons I’ve already expressed in this thread, Alabama still was ahead of OU. I’ll just mention one point: Alabama has 5 NCs apart from Saban or Bryant. Just 2 behind you. Bryant puts them 4 ahead and Saban 10 ahead.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:19 am to MizzouTrue
Aggie is in the top 10 on potential alone lol
Posted on 8/8/26 at 1:05 pm to MizzouTrue
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