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Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:28 am to StrickAggie06
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How is this even a debate? It's QB and it's not close.
Alabama is a poor example to draw from because you typically have better players at almost every position than the opponent you face, and McCarron doesn't exactly suck. LSU had a dominant defense, OL, and RBs last yr so what was their downfall in the championship game? QB play. They would have lost the first meeting with Bama too if Bama didn't have a complete abortion of a kicker.
You guys are looking at this all wrong. If all things are equal between you and your opponent except one position, having an elite player at which position gives you the biggest advantage? QB, and it's really not debatable.
best argument so far...
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:30 am to AUX3
quote:BOT - ask Bobby Lowder
Most Important Position in College
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:32 am to Diamondawg
QB on Offense
DT on Defense
DT on Defense
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:36 am to AUX3
Fulmer once said DT are worth their weight in gold.
all the championship winning SEC team had strong DL. SEC is a line of scrimmage league.
all the championship winning SEC team had strong DL. SEC is a line of scrimmage league.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:42 am to AUX3
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IMO: QB is the most critical - hands down.
Jordan Jefferson went 24-8 as a starter. I don't remember him ever playing well for an entire game and only 3 or halves.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:54 am to shinerfan
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Jordan Jefferson went 24-8 as a starter. I don't remember him ever playing well for an entire game and only 3 or halves.
Exactly! 24-8 with the talent on that team? It goes to show you can have a dominant everything but if your QB is crap, you will lose.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:06 am to AUX3
Its in the trenches in college football. Between OL and DL. And depends on which 1 is more dominant. Look at the recent BCSNCG winners. Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF,etc. All of those teams had great OL/DL and great individual players. But, IMO, nothing stands out more during a football game than when a DL is absolutely dominating an opponent and there O is completely shut down.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:40 am to vol017
Replace Cam Newton with a pretty good qb and the greatest LT in the history of football and what happens.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 11:41 am
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:53 am to KG5989
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But, IMO, nothing stands out more during a football game than when a DL is absolutely dominating an opponent and there O is completely shut down.
I couldn't agree more.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:58 am to KG5989
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Its in the trenches in college football. Between OL and DL.
OL and DL aren't positions, they are units. The fact that you and several other posters are trying to compare 5 OL or 4 DL vs 1 QB, only reinforces how vital the singular position of QB is. Case in point: if LSU and Bama switch QBs in the MNC game who wins?
Now, from a recruiting standpoint in terms of which position it is more important to get an elite guy at, then DT wins because there are a lot less elite DTs and the drop off from the elite to average guys is significant. Conversely, there are a lot more elite QBs, especially in Texas, as the best athletes tend to gravitate towards that position. In addition, it's also a deeper position in that you can find a lot of quality starters that are only 3* recruits. At DT you NEED mostly 4*/5* guys to get elite production.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:17 pm to StrickAggie06
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OL and DL aren't positions, they are units.
Yeah they are. You ask a person what he plays and he'll say "O-Line". Just because the position is collective doesn't mean it's not a position. This thread isn't about which player is the most important in college football, it's about position, and it is much more important to be strong on the line than at QB. QB's can't throw if they're flat on their back. QB's that scramble lose accuracy. QB's that are pressured make bad decisions. Kirk Cousins was a great quarterback but Bama held him scoreless until they put in their third stringers because of the difference on the line. Colt McCoy held the record for college wins when he went against Bama, but getting beat at the line broke his hand and he couldn't play.
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