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re: Most Auburn people don't want Gus gone
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:18 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:18 pm to wareaglepete
When we had momentum and had the ball with a few minutes left before halftime against UA last year, and he chose to go to the locker room with time outs in his pocket...that told me all I needed to know about the candy @ss. I want him gone and get a coach with some cajones.
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:19 pm to TailbackU
The way Auburn runs coaches off who would want that job unless it's to make some quick bank?
When a guy can win the national title and 2 years later he's gone that's a messed up program
When a guy can win the national title and 2 years later he's gone that's a messed up program
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:22 pm to LanierSpots
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But Auburns way has always been "Fire the coach" if we cant beat Alabama. And that has not changed
You are 100% wrong. Bama will fire coaches for losing to Auburn, but that has not been Auburn's history.
Doug Barfield did go 0-5 vs. Bama and was fired...But he was given 5 years..
Clearly Bill Curry was fired from Bama because of his 0-3 record, but won 10 games... Same goes for Shula.
Tater Tot Bowden was 3-2 against Bama and he resigned mid-season (Because he was about to be fired)
Tubs was 7-3 vs. Bama (He had personal issues), but again basically asked to leave.
Chizik went 3-9 and lost EVERY SEC game and lost the team that is why he was fired, not because he lost to Bama (He was 1-3). Heck he had a NC.
Now Gus maybe fired, but it will not be because of his record against Bama.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:23 pm to schatman
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he chose to go to the locker room with time outs in his pocket.
Yep. How in the world did he think he could play conservative and try to protect a lead against that team and that QB? I about flipped. He changed over the years. When he was first OC and then first HC, he was trying to score every single play. I really think someone got to him and convinced him playing conservative was the way to go after the Ellis defense lost a bunch of games in 2014. He should not have listened if that was it. You should always be who you are.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:37 pm to RT1941
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Absolutely!
Gus is
2-5 vs UGA
2-4 vs UA
2-4 vs LSU
3-3 vs MSU
3-2 vs aTm
That's 12-18 vs your strongest SEC foe over 6 yrs. Gus losing 25 games in 5 yrs has nothing to with Bama and whether he stays or gets canned. Alabama has no bearing on idiotic loses to Clemson/MSU/Tennessee/Wisconsin/UCF.
Idiotic losses to Clemson? You mean when they were national champs.. UCF though not a major was a undefeated team. Wisconsin beat us in 3 overtimes. The tennessee loss sucked but you are only looking at the negatives.
Gus has also ran an incredibly clean program. Recruited at a very good level bringing in some of the highest rated players in Auburn history. He has beaten 3 #1 tanked teams and took Auburn to a natty in one year after taking over a 3-9 program.
He has also gave Auburn some of its best moments in Auburn history and lets be honest, it was his offense, not Chiziks defense, that won the natty in 10 after 50 damn years of not a sniff.
And who do you compare him to in Auburn history? Do the think the SEC he coaches against is the same SEC of the Tubberville era? Not even close. A couple of stupid things happened differently and he is .500 agains the rivals all while playing the toughest competition we have ever faced. The UGA game in Athens and the stupid loss at LSU were the real back breakers.
There are always negatives and positives. You just have to decide if the Ups are better than the downs...... Every coach has some stupid losses. Honestly Gus has only had a few of them. Im pissed about a lot of things he has done but Im happy about the good things.... His average wins is better than almost any coach that has coached at Auburn for any length of time. So you are going to give him 25 million to leave because he is 12-18 against his rivals? Not sure about that.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:39 pm to allin2010
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You are 100% wrong. Bama will fire coaches for losing to Auburn, but that has not been Auburn's history.
Doug Barfield did go 0-5 vs. Bama and was fired...But he was given 5 years..
Clearly Bill Curry was fired from Bama because of his 0-3 record, but won 10 games... Same goes for Shula.
Tater Tot Bowden was 3-2 against Bama and he resigned mid-season (Because he was about to be fired)
Tubs was 7-3 vs. Bama (He had personal issues), but again basically asked to leave.
Chizik went 3-9 and lost EVERY SEC game and lost the team that is why he was fired, not because he lost to Bama (He was 1-3). Heck he had a NC.
Now Gus maybe fired, but it will not be because of his record against Bama.
And none of these happened while Alabama was in the best run in college football history. Tubbervile was basically fired because he was too chicken shite to go up against Saban recruiting players. He ran scared. Gus has not done that. His offense has done well against Alabama.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:55 pm to TailbackU
I don't want him gone
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:17 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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The way Auburn runs coaches off who would want that job unless it's to make some quick bank?
Gus is working on his 7th season and is the 2nd longest tenured SEC coach.
Most Clemson fans wanted to run Dabo early on...to the PTB credit they stuck with him, but stop rewriting history. Chiz deserved to be fired based on what was occurring in the program at the time.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:55 pm to narddogg81
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I don't want him gone
This. When all of your rival fans want your coach to stay put, there is a problem there...
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:11 pm to LanierSpots
I honestly think his ineptitude when it comes to UGA and LSU are eating at people more than not being able to beat Alabama enough while they're on a legendary run
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:12 pm to TailbackU
I've wanted him gone
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:15 pm to TailbackU
AU doesn’t want to have to come up with all the $ it will take to send him away. For my part I hope he stays at AU until he is 80. We really like Aunt Gussie. We are definitely on the Gus bus!! Go Dawgs!!!
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:20 pm to Tigerman97
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Gus is working on his 7th season and is the 2nd longest tenured SEC coach.
Most Clemson fans wanted to run Dabo early on...to the PTB credit they stuck with him, but stop rewriting history. Chiz deserved to be fired based on what was occurring in the program at the time.
Dabo at the time hadn't just won a national title. Oh, I agree, we got damn lucky that Tommy Bowden's buyout was so high that they went cheap with Dabo and it paid off. Had he won a national title, the thought of firing after 2 years even with a bad season would not have even been a thought. There would have been grumblings, but no way a firing offense.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:23 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Had he won a national title, the thought of firing after 2 years even with a bad season would not have even been a thought. There would have been grumblings, but no way a firing offense.
Chiz wasn't fired for the on the field product...it was what happened off the field that caused the issue. The forgotten 2012 season with a team that hadn't quit on it's head coach would have been a 7 or 8 win team and Chiz would have survived.
It shows a lack of understanding of the situation to suggest Chiz was fired 2 years after a title because they had a bad season.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:13 pm to LanierSpots
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Idiotic losses to Clemson? You mean when they were national champs.. UCF though not a major was a undefeated team. Wisconsin beat us in 3 overtimes. The tennessee loss sucked but you are only looking at the negatives.
Clemson and UCF are valid points though IMO. I'm not discounting those opponents, which were solid, but we probably should have beaten Clemson with any sort of cohesive offense. And with an offensive guru as our HC, we should have had that. That's one of a handful of major games that I think you can put pretty squarely at the feet of Gus.
Clemson was probably the better overall team/program at the time, but IMO that makes it almost worse. We had a chance to get the plucky upset win and squandered it.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:26 pm to Tigerman97
quote:Long live Gus! May he reign at AU for decades to come.
Gus is working on his 7th season and is the 2nd longest tenured SEC coach.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:48 pm to TailbackU
I don’t want him gone. If we go 6-6 and it’s not due nearly entirely to a freshman QB, I may change that tune...but it’s not what I expect
Posted on 8/21/19 at 5:06 pm to TailbackU
2013 - 12..2
2014 - 8...5
2015 - 7...6
2016 - 8...5
2017 - 10..4
2018 - 8...5
2014 - 8...5
2015 - 7...6
2016 - 8...5
2017 - 10..4
2018 - 8...5
Posted on 8/21/19 at 5:08 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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I don’t want him gone
Me neither. I would like to see him succeed at Auburn and I think he is very capable of doing so.
But, the problem with that is the constant rumblings. Its partly responsible for his asking for so much money. He had to be looking for his own financial security. Every single year all we heard was how he was going to be fired "this year" if things dont get better.
I equate that like a marriage. If you and your spouse are having troubles and the "D" word is brought up, it is hard to put that back in the holster. It will eventually keep being brought up till it gets to one party and its over then.
I actually dont blame Gus for asking for as much money as he could get. He did some great things at Auburn. He brought Auburn football out of the absolute cellar of the SEC in one season and took them to Pasadena and if not for a penalty and one missed tackle, he would have won the game. His offense did its job. Then two years later, they are ready to fire him.
He should have asked for 100 million.
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