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re: More prestigious Blueblood Brand: Alabama or Ohio State?

Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:30 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:30 am to
Most of the years they’ve given Overrated State the benefit a B1G team doesn’t get in the playoff if they don’t.
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:32 am to
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Hmmm, I know, I’ll dickride the team my team is about to play in order to troll the team that is in the sugar bowl, and has no impact on my team currently.


We will absolutely destroy them just like how we absolutely destroyed y’all in Indy and broke your program

Since the NIL era Alabama has ZERO national titles
Posted by RammerJammer28
All over the SEC
Member since Jul 2018
256 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:33 am to
The committee chose OSU over Bama because they only have 1 loss and Alabama has 2, it has nothing to with the committee thinking who is the more prestigious brand. As a Bama fan I know we have been one of the best programs in the nation since Saban arrived, but in no way shape or form did we deserve to be in the playoffs. I watched every Alabama snap this year and we did not pass the "eye test" as one of the 4 best teams if I am being honest. Way too many penalties and stupid bonehead plays that there was no way the committee was letting them get in the CFP. It's crazy to think as undisciplined as we were that we only lost by a combined 4 points in 2 losses It's about dang time the SEC East has picked up the slack, the West carried the conference for a very long time.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:55 am to
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Are they supposed to put a two-loss team in over a one-loss team based on brand?


They are putting 1 loss Ohio State in because they are a brand

Look at that soft schedule and put anybody else name in and they would not get in.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1370 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:02 am to
It was strictly one loss versus two losses. I don't think it was any more complicated than that.

Switch teams and losses and I think it would still be one loss versus two losses.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1370 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:07 am to
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Looking at how the B1G scheduled the committee rewarded weak scheduling but let the B1G get away with it.



The committee rewards soft scheduling. Look at Michigan's OOC schedule. I know, I know they went undefeated. that was helped in large part by not playing anyone of note OOC.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7598 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:10 am to
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Look at that soft schedule and put anybody else name in and they would not get in.




ok let's look at the schedule

you want to use rankings at the time the game was played?
Ohio State vs Top 15 teams: 2-1
Alabama against Top 15 teams: 1-2

oh wait, that doesn't support your argument. Lets use where the teams ended up at end of the year.
Ohio State vs Top 15 teams: 1-1
Alabama vs Top 15 teams: 0-1


shite! that didn't work either.

Alabama's best win: vs #20 by 1 point against their backup QB
Ohio State's best win: against #11 by 2 TDs

wait a minute, that doesn't prop up Alabama either.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1911 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:10 am to
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Before Saban, Alabama was irrelevant for 2 decades


And yet Bama won a Nattie in that time frame and never went mre than 3 seasons without a 10 win season (when there were only 11 regular season games).

So while being "irrelevant" how many Natties did UGA win in that time frame?
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:17 am to
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that doesn't prop up Alabama either


Yeah but Saban hired sally struthers to do a “feed the poor children “ halftime special informercial and got on his hands and knees to beg to get into the playoffs while Ryan Day just stepped back let the committee do their job with self-respect and dignity.

Saban and the Alabama program are as insecure and emotionally needy as that fanbase
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15186 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:21 am to
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you want to use rankings at the time the game was played?
Ohio State vs Top 15 teams: 2-1
Alabama against Top 15 teams: 1-2


Why is Penn State considered a top 15 team?

They have one of the weakest schedules in football and only played two ranked teams; OSU and Michigan.

They literally propped the B1G off of Penn State ranking.

Yet Penn State hadn't beaten a team with a pulse all season.
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:24 am to
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Why is Penn State considered a top 15 team?


Because they only have 2 losses: Ohio state and Michigan

Ohio state and Michigan are better than Tennessee and LSU, who Bama lost to.

If Penn state isn’t a top 15 team, then Bama should not be a top 10 team.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23236 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:29 am to
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Recent history = Since the start of the NIL era (2021)

Since then Bama has 0 national titles

So you're basing your entire argument of historical prominence and overall success on the past 15 months?

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15528 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:30 am to
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Penn State hadn't beaten a team with a pulse all season.
Thats why I tend to go with who Vegas would favor.

They’re not always right, just more than everyone else. I figure most of the top 25 would be a favorite against Penn State. Their best win is Ohio. Not Ohio State, the Ohio Bobcats.
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:49 am to
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So you're basing your entire argument of historical prominence and overall success on the past 15 months?


How much does Army or Yale or even Nebraska’s success in the last matter today?
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:53 am to
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Hback


You seem to be in a very sour mood

Maybe eat a bowl of sugar

You won’t need to be a playoff caliber program for it this year
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11443 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:54 am to
You're one of the worst troll alters on this site. How are you still allowed to post?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16548 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:00 am to
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Pretty clear that the committee thinks Ohio state is a better brand than Bama.


Just the fact that the committee would have had to make a choice between a two loss Bama and a one loss OSU should show you they value the Alabama brand more. You should do better than this
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26587 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:05 am to
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It made me think, why did the committee pick Ohio state over Alabama?


It couldn't possibly be that Ohio State has 1 loss and Bama has 2.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8188 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:10 am to
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Before Saban, Alabama was irrelevant for 2 decades

bullshite. Bama was irrelevant for about ONE decade before Saban arrived. Gene Stallings won an NC in 1992 and was on the cusp of winning several other SEC titles before he left after the 1996 season. Spurrier was his kryptonite though. If by irrelevant you mean not winning NCs then Georgia was irrelevant for FOUR decades before getting over the hump last year.

Before Saban, Bama was in the conversation for most prestigious program of all time along with about 6 or 8 others. Since Saban did what he has the last 15 years, Bama is inarguably the preeminent program in CFB history.
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