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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:28 am
Posted by GeauxBreauxs
Member since Aug 2013
408 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:28 am
Question: is MSU actually capable of poaching a current SEC baseball head coach? My BaseVol buddies do not seem to think so.

Although MSU has heavily invested in its baseball program over the last few decades, it’s hard to imagine that they will offer a more lucrative contract than what these other SEC programs are now willing to pay. I’ll hang up and listen.

What is Andy Cannizaro up to?
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9236 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:40 am to
Obviously, it's early, and we've got a ways to go... but, our team looks night and day from last year in the best possible ways. We may not be looking for a new coach after this season.

To answer your question... we could steal Butch Thompson from Auburn anytime we want.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16508 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:41 am to
Probably not even though MSU has a great BB history. Why would someone like the Bama coach leave after one year? OUtside of the MSU history and the 10K fans they bring, what other positive is there. Bama has proven with NS that you can be successful in other sports at Bama while FB thrives. Plus as Greg said in congress you need a powerful FB team along with mens basketball to fund the non revenue sports. This would apply to other SEC schools as well but I reference Bama since they have a new coach. And long established coaches like Corbin are surely not going to leave.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42375 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:42 am to
If O'Sullivan flirted with LSU I could see him wanting that job with the support MSU can give him that Fla doesn't.

Corbin always seems to come up but he seems content to ride it out in Nashville.

I'm not convinced Vitello wouldn't strongly consider it as well although Hog fans seem to think he longs for Fayeteville.
Posted by ColonelBear
the vaught
Member since Sep 2013
86 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:06 am to
Your Vol friends must not know much about SEC baseball and the capabilities that State has regarding baseball.

If State wanted Vitello he would listen. This isn't football.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:07 am
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41191 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:


If O'Sullivan flirted with LSU I could see him wanting that job with the support MSU can give him that Fla doesn't.


Sully gets great support from the admin and is paid well. Florida fans also give baseball great support, just not on a level of the top 4 teams (attendance wise) but very comparable to Carolina and A&M.

2024 SEC Baseball Attendance Figures
School - Capacity - Avg. Home Attendance

LSU - 10,326 - 10,551
State - 15,000 - 10,172
Arkansas - 10,737 - 9,682
Ole Miss - 11,477 - 9,459
Carolina - 8,242 - 6,863
Florida 7,000 - 5,972
Texas A&M - 6,100 5,648
Tennessee - 4,387 - 4,835
Auburn - 4,096 - 3,877
Alabama - 5,867 - 3,602
Vanderbilt - 3,802 - 3,405
Kentucky - 5,000 - 2,190
Georgia - 3,420 - 1,810
Missouri - 3,031 - 1,192


Sully is also paid as much as anyone in the SEC. Nobody knows what Corbin makes, but Sully and JJ both received contract extensions this year and the were nearly the same annual amount.

So could he be poached, yes of course, but I think someone would have to pay way over market. I don't know that Sully is worth it. He is a good coach but not sure how much tread is left on the tires.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:15 am to
Vitello would leave Tennessee in an instant if State offered him
Posted by GeauxBreauxs
Member since Aug 2013
408 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:23 am to
quote:

To answer your question... we could steal Butch Thompson from Auburn anytime we want.


Didn’t Butch Thompson already tell MSU to kick rocks after they let Andy go?
Posted by GeauxBreauxs
Member since Aug 2013
408 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Your Vol friends must not know much about SEC baseball and the capabilities that State has regarding baseball.


This is where the confusion comes from, what makes them different from Tenn? 1 Covid championship (and a while much larger) a stadium that seats about 12k? Can’t imagine Tenn doesn’t have the funding to catch up with states facilities in about 4-5 years time if it cared to
Posted by ColonelBear
the vaught
Member since Sep 2013
86 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:34 am to
There's a lot of things that separate State from UT baseball wise. Namely it's the baseball culture and fan support that's existed since the Ron Polk era.

You already answered yourself though. "Can’t imagine Tenn doesn’t have the funding to catch up with states facilities in about 4-5 years time if it cared to"
State does care, and they will put up the money and support that UT has never had in the entire history of their baseball program.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2115 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:37 am to
Yes. Not every coach, but there are more than a handful that would listen, and several that would likely take the job.
Posted by ReedRothchild
South MS
Member since Jul 2019
1164 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:39 am to
well said
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50233 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

is MSU actually capable of poaching a current SEC baseball head coach?


Yes, but I think a few guys are locked in and not going anywhere in Corbin, Schloss, DVH, O'Sullivan, Johnson, & Vitello.

If they target a Butch Thompson or Rob Vaughn (too early) then I think they could.

I doubt they're interested in Kingston, Bieser, or Mingione, but I think they could steal one if they wanted.

I left Bianco out. He's not going anywhere and I don't think anyone wants him.
Posted by GeauxBreauxs
Member since Aug 2013
408 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:04 am to
MSU targeted Butch Thompson the year before they won it all and he said no.
Posted by Warwick
Member since May 2022
1001 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:09 am to
quote:

We may not be looking for a new coach after this season.


yall were wanting him fired after like 2 weeks this season. its going to be one hell of a roller coaster
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50233 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:15 am to
quote:

MSU targeted Butch Thompson the year before they won it all and he said no.



I don't really recall that, but timing matters. MSU got turned down by Schloss too. But if they went after him the year we did (and we weren't shopping or we landed Tadlock) then I think MS could have happened Schloss.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7711 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:20 am to
I personally always enjoyed lsu state baseball. Fun series every time they played. Hope state figures it out.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15873 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Vitello would leave Tennessee in an instant if State offered him


1.5 million a year base salary
He’s getting the facilities he wants
Capacity going to 7,750 by the start of 2025
He has the full support of the university
He has the full support of the fans

State has a fine history but Tennessee has a better future.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:


He’s getting the facilities he wants
Capacity going to 7,750 by the start of 2025
He has the full support of the university
He has the full support of the fans
Every single one of these things, Mississippi State does 10x better
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by MadisonReb10
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2010
884 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:44 am to
quote:

State has a fine history but Tennessee has a better future.


One major part of this is that a good bit of State people request their NIL money to go to baseball and baseball only. Tennessee wipes the floor with State in football and basketball facilities and NIL, but baseball is the opposite. They take more pride in their baseball team and facilities than the other sports. We’ll see how the new AD handles baseball, but with Cohen it was baseball first and everything else after. I know a lot of people that were pissed about that approach, but they’ve got a lot of fans that think this way as well
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