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re: Mississippi - Flagship of the southern states
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:36 pm to DarthRebel
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:36 pm to DarthRebel
Oh, so it's the Annie E Casey Foundation's ranking.
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:36 pm to DarthRebel
Oklahoma is more worried about having the bible and 10 commandments in their classrooms vs getting more educated.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:37 pm to DarthRebel
Has Lane seen this?? Surely elementary education rankings have some pull
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:53 pm to DarthRebel
The "Mississippi Miracle" is a sham. It is simply NAEP testing manipulation. Mississippi holds kids back in 3rd and 7th grade to keep them from taking the 4th and 8th grade tests. This means that low scoring students are excluded from the results until they get to an adequate reading level. Having a 12 year old 4th grader do well because he was in 3rd grade for three years is not a miracle, it is a shell game.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:02 pm to DarthRebel
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:03 pm to DarthRebel
I don’t really see what this is telling me.
Why bring in the state universities to that chart?
No one with any sense would consider Ol’Miss on the same academic level of Texas or Texas A&M.
But congrats on k-12 I guess
Why bring in the state universities to that chart?
No one with any sense would consider Ol’Miss on the same academic level of Texas or Texas A&M.
But congrats on k-12 I guess
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:04 pm to DarthRebel
They did the simplest thing possible starting a decade ago. Grade school students must be able to read and write at a level equal to their grade or else they can’t advance.
That was literally it
That was literally it
quote:Those kids are held back because they can’t read or write at the level they’re supposed to. That’s literally how education is supposed to work. It’s not a “sham”
Mississippi holds kids back in 3rd and 7th grade to keep them from taking the 4th and 8th grade tests. This means that low scoring students are excluded from the results until they get to an adequate reading level. Having a 12 year old 4th grader do well because he was in 3rd grade for three years is not a miracle, it is a shell game.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:17 pm to DarthRebel
Mississippi actually had democrats win some seats or some shite there? How fricked up do things have to be in a southern state where democrats actually gain ground?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:19 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:25 pm to DarthRebel
So education rankings in part being tabulated by the same organizations that are putting tampons in boys bathrooms?
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:27 pm to DarthRebel
Are we completely out of content around here?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:19 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
There were 2nd graders not born yet, when this article was written.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:22 pm to Tex117
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Why bring in the state universities to that chart?
No one with any sense would consider Ol’Miss on the same academic level of Texas or Texas A&M.
Most universities are built around in-state students, finally the Mississippi schools are going to have higher educated incoming freshmen. There is no denying how bad Mississippi was historically, but we can all celebrate a change to the positive and look forward to what the change might to do for the state.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:22 pm to DarthRebel
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Ah, there is always that one person. At least list your sources, are the teachers on public record stating this?
Yes, actually! I can see if I can go back and find it, but they were Mississippi teachers, too. Take with a grain of salt, of course, but also…how else does a dramatic jump without any clear indications of much change happen so fast?
Okay, will have to see if I can find the original commentary I saw that it was mentioned, this isn’t the OP I had read through, but they’re also corroborating what I was referring to.
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These numbers are from 2024 which is 9 years after the state of Mississippi instituted its "3rd grade reading gate". The Miss legislature passed the law in 2013 off of the success of Florida's similar legislation that was proving a success. Mississippi did change some things that they thought would better suit its population. The students are retained in the third grade if unable to read at a proficient level by the end of that school year. They are given additional chances to pass the test and can even be given a waiver in special circumstances. The Seniors from the class of 2024 would have been the first ones to have been under this new law because it began in 2015. I don't know if or how they might be skewing the numbers, but I believe we all would agree that reading proficiently would help theses students in all their classes. Being unable to read at a comprehensive level, would in turn hurt their ability to progress in math or science other than at a basic level.
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This is the 3rd or 4th I've seen this, and the reality doesn't seem nearly as impressive as this graphic implies. In fact, it seems this graphic is intentionally misleading. Based on the source OP provided (LINK here's what I found: We are below the national average on 8th grade math and reading. We are ahead of the national average on 4th grade reading and 4th grade math. On both of those, we are "not significantly different" from 29 other states/jurisdictions. We have no data for MS for science or writing, and no data for math and reading in 12th grade. Best I can tell, "cumulative state ranking" is not described in this source. Happy to be proven wrong...
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:23 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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How fricked up do things have to be in a southern state where democrats actually gain ground?
Georgia is going to sit this one out
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:36 pm to DarthRebel
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and look forward to what the change might to do for the state.
Congrats on the incoming influx of rust belt retirees
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:57 pm to DarthRebel
I love the fact that one of the arguments people are making against what Mississippi has done to correct its education is holding kids back that aren't ready for fourth grade.
And the number is like 6%, its not like half the kids are failing the reading gate test.
And the number is like 6%, its not like half the kids are failing the reading gate test.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:08 pm to Jorts R Us
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Congrats on the incoming influx of rust belt retirees
The Midwest folks typically don’t retire to Mississippi. They head out to Las Vegas or Phoenix now
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:21 pm to DarthRebel
Don’t yall accept like 98% of applicants? Isn’t that pretty much a community college?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:36 pm to 3down10
A response thread to the UNSWR state education rankings. Oof.
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