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Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Rambone
Member since Sep 2026
329 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

In a thread about scoring defense, you post a response showing total yards allowed by defense?

You do know that there is a more appropriate stat to the topic at hand?
The stat which specifically measures opponent scoring.


Don't try to explain to these swampy mud boys that these raw ncaa stats don't really mean a whole lot.

They can't hear you.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74519 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

It might even be worse than here.

let's not get crazy
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
41490 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Honestly, it must be a slow week at message board geniuses.

This is nowhere near the floor of how dumb we are capable of being.


I agree. Especially since the person could technically end up right.

Unlikely, but possible.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
23324 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:53 pm to
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What a loser


He's also a dumbass by bringing up Sagarin & SOS. Those two are meaningless in this discussion. A more intellectual poster would have taken those top 10 defensive rankings & broken them down by opponents offensive yardage & scoring rankings instead. You can't fix stupid.
Posted by Night Vision
33rd Level REC/Bryant Denny West
Member since Feb 2018
26399 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:54 pm to
Another retard.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8680 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:56 pm to
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In case you are just retarded, that is off of Message Board Geniuses, genius

Which is an obscure blog that most likely belongs to you
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
67947 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:57 pm to
What kind of a loser wastes time following that
Posted by Night Vision
33rd Level REC/Bryant Denny West
Member since Feb 2018
26399 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:58 pm to
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Which is an obscure blog that most likely belongs to you

You got me, I own it.

Obscure blog you say, with 150.7K followers?

You might just be a message board genius.
Posted by Night Vision
33rd Level REC/Bryant Denny West
Member since Feb 2018
26399 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:59 pm to
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What kind of a loser wastes time following that


Well, you do evidently since you're in this thread.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
8479 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:59 pm to
I think some people post stupid shite just to be featured on that page

Not me of course...
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
23324 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Don't try to explain to these swampy mud boys that these raw ncaa stats don't really mean a whole lot.

They can't hear you.


Yet I posted where LSU ranks #20 in the nation & #4 in the SEC in scoring defense on top of the #2 & #1 in the nation & SEC when it comes to yardage.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
23324 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Another retard.


LSU has an overall top 5 defense in the nation. Deal with it.
This post was edited on 10/8/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8680 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Obscure blog you say, with 150.7K followers?

Your 150K is in fact obscure in the X universe that has over 1/2 billion members, but congrats on your 0.028% market share. Even drugged out Britney Spears has 282 times as many.

Keep it up. You will get there one day.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76137 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:11 pm to
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I may have to make it a mission to get noticed by them at least once.


I made it awhile back



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Posted by pgaddxn
between here and there
Member since Jul 2008
3866 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:11 pm to
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What kind of a loser wastes time following that


The kind like that likes men and doesn’t have a future.
Posted by Night Vision
33rd Level REC/Bryant Denny West
Member since Feb 2018
26399 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by pgaddxn
between here and there
Member since Jul 2008
3866 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
27701 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Don't try to explain to these swampy mud boys that these raw ncaa stats don't really mean a whole lot.



I dont mind raw numbers.
Numbers are numbers.

But when the discussion is "kentucky will score 0 points", it is intentionally stupid to post yardage stats.

He then posts scoring stats when prompted, and there is nothing in those stats to imply that Kentucky is going to be shutout.

He own-goals twice.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
22549 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Yet I posted where LSU ranks #20 in the nation & #4 in the SEC in scoring defense on top of the #2 & #1 in the nation & SEC when it comes to yardage.


It is because judging raw yards allowed (rushing/passing) and points allowed has become antiquated. That is essentially what NCAA "total stats" does.

Yes, it is a data point. No, it doesn't really paint a full picture of the actual "total" defense.

Efficiency rankings do a much better job of evaluating the entire defensive unit while accounting for opponent strength and garbage time. It is a much better picture

Although, efficiency data really isn't a great predictor until about week 7 of CFB to get a better sample size and allow for all of the data and comparison points to mature.

The raw stats of rush yards allowed, pass yards allowed, and points allowed holds value, but even late into the season, it is not the best tool available. It makes for fun shite talk when your team is ahead in a category, but it isn't overly helpful at face value alone. The advanced data behind the raw data is more useful.

I found the BCS era comment earlier kind of ironic, as the raw stats yardage/points data was made relatively obsolete in the BCS era when computer modeling and advanced metrics started gaining notoriety. And, yes, Sagarin was a leader in that advancement rather you agree with his methodologies or not.

Posted by DeathByTossDive226
Member since Sep 2026
685 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Unlikely, but possible.

It’s extremely unlikely we actually goose egg anyone this year.

1st team defense has been disgusting save for one half against Ole Miss, but huge drop off after starters (the one exception being DL, we have some depth there)… and you need depth to pitch a shutout. 1s can’t play every snap every game.

Cats also have the best OL we have faced, so this will be a good test.
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