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Maybe most of you are too young to remember how the NC used to be crowned.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:36 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:36 am
Back in the day then NC was crowned by the AP. (That would be the same guys that provides you with your unbiased news media today.) They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game. And just like today it went pretty much like our elections go, in the fact that the winner was crowned before the game was ever played. It seemed to me that it was almost always Notre Dame or USC or some other media darling, but mostly Notre Dame. I remember as a kid thinking how unfair it was that CFB didn't have a playoff like the NFL where a clear and undisputed winner could be determined on the field not in a pressroom. Color me surprised living long enough to see that wish fulfilled only to find a contingent griping about it.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:38 am to SemperFiDawg
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They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
I'm old as frick and I don't remember any NC game before the BCS.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:39 am to SemperFiDawg
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Back in the day then NC was crowned by the AP. (That would be the same guys that provides you with your unbiased news media today.) They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game
Maybe you are too old to remember because this isn’t how it worked
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:40 am to TigerLunatik
Ah, yes, the good old days.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:41 am to SemperFiDawg
Weakest MNC ever was BYU, 1980 IIRC.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:41 am to TigerLunatik
I'm not old enough to remember those times, but I do know that there were championships awarded before bowl games, even if that team would go on to lose (1964 Alabama, 1965 Michigan State, 1970 Texas, etc.).
Wasn't that because teams would mostly go to their conference's respective top bowl game regardless if you were No. 1 or 2 and the other wasn't slated to play there?
Wasn't that because teams would mostly go to their conference's respective top bowl game regardless if you were No. 1 or 2 and the other wasn't slated to play there?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:42 am to SemperFiDawg
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Back in the day then NC was crowned by the AP.
Sort of like our elections now.
ETA- should have read your full post first.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:42 am to SemperFiDawg
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They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
That is not how it worked. Conference ties in prevented a lot of top 2 match ups. The AP ranked the team #1 that the voters thought was the best team after the conclusion of the bowl games. It actually was done before the bowl game back in the day. The BCS created the #1 vs. #2 game.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:44 am to XWing atAliciousness
The 1960 Mizzou team would have a national championship if they would have voted after the bowls.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:45 am to SemperFiDawg
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Back in the day then NC was crowned by the AP. (That would be the same guys that provides you with your unbiased news media today.) They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
That's not how it happened at all. First, the national champ was crowned by the AP and the coaches/USA today poll. Sometimes there were split national champs. Second, the two best teams rarely played for the national title. Conference champs had to go to certain bowls. For instance, if the #1 team was from the big ten and #2 team was from the SEC they didn't play each other.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:47 am to SemperFiDawg
And yes, ND could have a really sorry team and still get the NC.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:48 am to TigerLunatik
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1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/ESPN
1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN
1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1992 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP
1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI
1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1986 Penn State AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1982 Penn State AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1980 Georgia AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1979 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
I can remember back to Georgia in 1980 and Clemson in 1981.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:49 am to rich4pres
Babe, he is talking about before USA Today even existed. It was AP and UPI and sometimes they differed and we had two or three claiming championships in the same year.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:50 am to TigerLunatik
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I'm old as frick
It normally takes 9 months after the act.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:52 am to Referee
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Babe, he is talking about before USA Today even existed. It was AP and UPI and sometimes they differed and we had two or three claiming championships in the same year.
That's pretty much exactly what I said. Coaches/USA today/CNN replaced UPI. We both agree there were sometimes split champs. He didn't. And he said AP decided who played for the national championship which isn't true.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:56 am to SemperFiDawg
Here's what I remember.
Teams were ranked by representatives of the Press. Teams went to Bowl games based on conference tie-ins. At the end...one team was named by the AP and one by the Coaches...sometimes the same team...often times different teams. Everyone spent the off season bitching about how one team didn't get a shot, and how conference bias (back then it was the Big-10) was really why a team was named NC.
That and we had to listen to Keith Jackson whenever we would watch the SEC champion play in the Sugar Bowl...
Teams were ranked by representatives of the Press. Teams went to Bowl games based on conference tie-ins. At the end...one team was named by the AP and one by the Coaches...sometimes the same team...often times different teams. Everyone spent the off season bitching about how one team didn't get a shot, and how conference bias (back then it was the Big-10) was really why a team was named NC.
That and we had to listen to Keith Jackson whenever we would watch the SEC champion play in the Sugar Bowl...
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:41 pm to SemperFiDawg
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Back in the day then NC was crowned by the AP. (That would be the same guys that provides you with your unbiased news media today.) They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
Who the hell told you this? Until the VCS there was no national championship game. 1 Vs 2 matchups were rare in the bowls.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:44 pm to SemperFiDawg
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They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
Yeah, that rarely happened with bowl tie ins. You had number 1 playing number 15 because number 2 was tied into another bowl. That's what created the BCS in the first place.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:46 pm to SemperFiDawg
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They would pick the 2 teams they thought most worthy and put them in a NC game.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:50 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
buffalo had five downs!
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