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re: Mac Jones is the current Vegas favorite to be the #3 overall pick

Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:06 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30998 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:06 am to
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Prove me wrong. AJ was can't miss.........by bama fans. Tua was the next coming.


First, AJ, like every Saban made Alabama QB before Tua was simply a game manager. Alabama was a run first, great defensive team. Saban never was comfortable with letting his QB throw it around (i.e. Jalen Hurts). Next, you attempt to evaluate a rookie NFL player coming off a severe leg injury the previous year in college! Next, tell me why the Dolphins let Ryan Fitzpatrick walk if they aren't confident with Tua's ability to win?
Your post makes no sense, coming or going.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:12 am to
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You think a rookie QB struggling on a team that was bad enough to pick in the top 10 is going to cost a GM his job? Maybe if it's the last chance for a guy who built the team that ended up picking top 10, but a GM hired to rebuild a bad team isn't losing his job over a rookie struggling. They're drafting based on who they think will be the best 4-5 years from now.


Over time a GM will be held accountable by who he picks in the first round. And in some cases who he didn’t pick. I think that is why the Dolphins picked Tua dispite his injury.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30998 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:13 am to
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I think Tua and Jones have a good chance of having long careers as FG holders
......and Nate Oats is "in over his head".....and your Auburn football coaches' list was riiiight on!
Man, your opinion and 95 cents will get you a Senior coffee at McDonald's any day!
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29795 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:13 am to
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Next, you attempt to evaluate a rookie NFL player coming off a severe leg injury the previous year in college! Next, tell me why the Dolphins let Ryan Fitzpatrick walk if they aren't confident with Tua's ability to win?


I am not sure? I looked at Tua's stats. Do you know he averaged just over 6 yards per attempt last year? Maybe they let Fitzpatrick go because he is nothing more than a journeyman NFL QB. I do know they have put all of their eggs in the Tua basket. They will sink or swim with him.......this is the same franchise that wouldn't clear Drew Brees and instead went with Daunte Culpepper.


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Your post makes no sense, coming or going.



and you are sucking Jones dick because he played at bama. IF he had played at say Ole Miss..........you would be bringing up his lack of arm strength as a huge factor.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17833 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:19 am to
Irons Puppet just makes shite up as he goes along.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:20 am to
Oats losing in the Sweet 16 with that team and that seeding says a lot.
The list was right on with who got early interviews, never said the list was complete or who would get the job. Just who interviewed the first few days after Gus was fired. People are still pissed it wasn’t Steele on here. LOL.
Watch out for those windmills. Lol
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:21 am to
That is your best counter argument? Lol lol
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68755 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:22 am to
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and you are sucking Jones dick because he played at bama. IF he had played at say Ole Miss..........you would be bringing up his lack of arm strength as a huge factor


Well I'm not and even I can recognize that both you and Iron's Puppet have made some terrible takes in this thread.

Jones could be great, he could be a bust, but so could anyone else.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30998 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:25 am to
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and you are sucking Jones dick because he played at bama. IF he had played at say Ole Miss..........you would be bringing up up his lack of arm strength as a huge factor.
Tell me what you think about this analyst's report:

Containing average arm strength, he’s an underrated deep passerthat’s able to layer the ball into adequate spots for perimeter targets. As an anticipatory thrower, he’s well above average with “about to be open” throws of where he releases the ball while estimating where targets are going to be. Balance and savvy within the pocket are top-tier traits, as he’s an excellent mover within the pocket and knows how to create windows of opportunities to release throws with a cleaner view than previously offered. Jones isn’t a passer that will make a living creating off-script plays outside of structure, but he has enough mobility to take advantage of the grass offered to him.

All the reports I've seen have an uncanny resemblance to Brady's coming out of Michigan.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29795 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:28 am to
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Jones could be great


that is a far reach. He has very little mobility. He is a pure pocket passer. I brought up another GREAT college QB, who lacked arm strength, who could not make it in the NFL..... Danny Wuerffel.

He played college football with superior talent. Name the last bama QB that looked bad? They have such superior talent, every QB looks good. Not one has proven they can be a bonafide NFL starter.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:28 am to
You’re right. Mac Jones is the next Tom Brady.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29795 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:29 am to
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All the reports I've seen have an uncanny resemblance to Brady's coming out of Michigan.




Holy shite.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:29 am to
Dumbest fricking post on the internet.
Posted by zcoop
Stone Mtn, GA
Member since Jun 2018
83 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:31 am to
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Comparing Mahomes and Watson to Fields is a massive stretch. Plus, I'm sure there's never been a black QB drafted ahead of a white QB that didn't work out.

The color of the player really doesn't matter. It's whether they can play or not. The color only matters to the woke crowd. They're driving the lines between color while calling everyone else racists.


I didn't mentioned race, you did. I stated a bust at QB that was selected before two that panned out. Race doesn't matter, just being able to play at the next level does.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:32 am to
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Well I'm not and even I can recognize that both you and Iron's Puppet have made some terrible takes in this thread.

Jones could be great, he could be a bust, but so could anyone else.
.

Boy that last statement is really sticking your neck out. Lol

In Jones case, he is a great 7 on 7 passer, but that is not the NFL. The difference in Bama’s WRs and the competitions DBs was great last year. Jones will not have the luxury of the separation of WRs in the NFL. He will not have the protection time he had at Bama. Thinking anything else is just ignorant.
Posted by zcoop
Stone Mtn, GA
Member since Jun 2018
83 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:34 am to
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A draft pick is an educated guess and I think him, Fields and Lawrence are all "safe" picks.

I agree, can't stand Clemson as a Gamecock but Lawrence has skills.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30998 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:39 am to

Where in the hell did I say that he was gonna be as good as Brady? You folks are so biased that it's affecting your reading comprehension.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
6015 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:42 am to
Mac Jones was deadly last season. He was #1 in the country in completions, completion percentage, passing yards, yards/attempt, adj yards/attempt, passing efficiency rating, total yards, and yards/play. On top of all that, he was a Heisman finalist, won the Davey O'Brien Award, won the Golden Arm Award, and lead an undefeated team to a national title.

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to consider him a top 3 or 5 pick, considering that other players (like Cam Newton and Joe Burrow) have also been drafted high after only one great year. The idea that playing on a team with other very good players disqualifying him from being drafted high is fricking stupid - Joe Burrow played on an equally talented, if not better in terms of depth, offensive unit than Jones did this past year. If Trevor Lawrence wasn't the media's poster child, Jones would probably be the #1 overall pick.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17833 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:43 am to
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That is your best counter argument? Lol lol


What? I stopped arguing with you pages ago. I said my points, and you looked like a moron who makes shite up as he goes along. At the same time, you also appear to truly believe your own bullshite.

It's amazing. You literally don't have a leg to stand on, but for some reason you continue arguing as though you have everything. It's so strange.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29795 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:43 am to
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Where in the hell did I say that he was gonna be as good as Brady?



ummmmmm

quote:

All the reports I've seen have an uncanny resemblance to Brady's coming out of Michigan.



or did you misquote yourself?
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