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re: Mac Jones is the current Vegas favorite to be the #3 overall pick
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:44 am to Irons Puppet
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:44 am to Irons Puppet
"Containing average arm strength, he’s an underrated deep passerthat’s able to layer the ball into adequate spots for perimeter targets. As an anticipatory thrower, he’s well above average with “about to be open” throws of where he releases the ball while estimating where targets are going to be. Balance and savvy within the pocket are top-tier traits, as he’s an excellent mover within the pocket and knows how to create windows of opportunities to release throws with a cleaner view than previously offered. Jones isn’t a passer that will make a living creating off-script plays outside of structure, but he has enough mobility to take advantage of the grass offered to him."
Looks like this professional analyst's report blow your opinion of Jones out of the water....but I'm sure you're right and they are wrong.
Looks like this professional analyst's report blow your opinion of Jones out of the water....but I'm sure you're right and they are wrong.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:48 am to RebelTheBear
Well shite you’ve convinced me - I guess Jason White should’ve been the #1 draft pick back in 2005.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:48 am to Irons Puppet
quote:...to a UCLA team that made Gonzaga hit a 35 ft shot to win the game!
Oats losing in the Sweet 16 with that team and that seeding says a lot.
Man, you just can't keep yourself from picking up your shovel and digging yourself another hole!
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:51 am to coachcrisp
But , but , but.......... I guess Bama fans love to play “Six degrees of Kevin Bacon” to try and claim a Final 4.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:54 am to MrAUTigers
quote:If you honestly believe that what I said about Brady's report resembling Jones' means that I think that he's gonna be as good as Brady, then You honestly DO have a reading comprehension problem.
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Where in the hell did I say that he was gonna be as good as Brady?
ummmmmm
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All the reports I've seen have an uncanny resemblance to Brady's coming out of Michigan.
or did you misquote yourself?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:55 am to Irons Puppet
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In Jones case, he is a great 7 on 7 passer, but that is not the NFL. The difference in Bama’s WRs and the competitions DBs was great last year
That's literally what the NFL is now, the game is geared towards offensive flexibility with the rule changes.
Anytime someone post stats or a link to dispel one of your inaccurate assessments you move on quickly. I absolutely have no problem with you thinking Mac won't be able last in NFL but if you want to play NFL GM aleast be fair in your opinions and apply the same criteria across the board to other QBs.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:56 am to coachcrisp
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Looks like this professional analyst's report blow your opinion of Jones out of the water....but I'm sure you're right and they are wrong.
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If the 49ers are looking for a player with a cannon for an arm or the mobility to break outside the pocket and make big plays with his arm or legs, Jones is not the guy.
Jones is a traditional pocket passer at a time when such quarterbacks as Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson and Josh Allen seem to be en vogue around the NFL
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Jones is not the kind of player who can take a team on his back and lead it to victory when the rest of the club is playing at a sub-par level.
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He is a facilitator who will not be able to make something out of nothing unlike, perhaps, some of the other quarterbacks who will be available with the No. 3 overall pick. The 49ers also will have to spend some time looking into a DUI arrest from 2017, when he was a freshman in college.
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WHAT SCOUTS ARE SAYING
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“He’s a system guy. He had NFL players at running back, offensive line and wide receiver at Alabama.”
“Nice player. Doesn’t have the strongest arm. Smart. Accurate. Game manager.”
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“His arm is below average. He pushes the ball.”
“From what I see, he is a long-term NFL backup.”
“If your team is not right on that day, you’re not going to go ahead and win the game with him at quarterback.”
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Looks like this professional analyst's report blow your opinion of Jones out of the water.
Looks like these are saying what I have been saying. Maybe I should be a scout?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:00 am to coachcrisp
LMFAO
you quoted an article......
but you left off from the same article......
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you quoted an article......
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"Containing average arm strength, he’s an underrated deep passerthat’s able to layer the ball into adequate spots for perimeter targets. As an anticipatory thrower, he’s well above average with “about to be open” throws of where he releases the ball while estimating where targets are going to be. Balance and savvy within the pocket are top-tier traits, as he’s an excellent mover within the pocket and knows how to create windows of opportunities to release throws with a cleaner view than previously offered. Jones isn’t a passer that will make a living creating off-script plays outside of structure, but he has enough mobility to take advantage of the grass offered to him."
but you left off from the same article......
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Jones is a passer that will need the three P’s surrounding him (playmakers, play-caller, protection) at high-tier levels in order to see his full potential on a consistent basis, as he isn’t a thrower that will be able to overcome those elements being at a lower-tier level.
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This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:02 am to MrAUTigers
Mac Jones will be fortunate to hold the clipboard in the NFL as long as AJ Mccarron has been able to.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:02 am to Irons Puppet
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But , but , but.......... I guess Bama fans love to play “Six degrees of Kevin Bacon” to try and claim a Final 4.
Who's trying to claim a final-4, you stupid bastard? I'm simply saying that losing to UCLA during their streak has NOTHING to do with Oats' coaching ability.
Damn, man! You're another idiot that makes themselves look more stupid with each post while trying to mitigate your original frick up. Just stop digging and let it go.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:07 am to MrAUTigers
I left it off because it didn't pertain to his arm strength that you questioned. By the way, Tom Brady wasn't known for great arm strength...another similarity
I guess that also means to you that I said/think that Jones is going to be as good as Brady.
I guess that also means to you that I said/think that Jones is going to be as good as Brady.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:08 am to coachcrisp
He did it again. What a fricking dumbass. 
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:09 am to SmokeTide
Tell that to the QBs and the DL. The DBs are in the face of the WRs and the QB doesn’t just have one guy chasing him. No, it isn’t 7 on 7.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:11 am to coachcrisp
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By the way, Tom Brady wasn't known for great arm strength...another similarity
I guess that also means to you that I said/think that Jones is going to be as good as Brady.
This is twice now you have compared Mac to Brady. It's not me making that claim. It's you.
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I left it off because it didn't pertain to his arm strength that you questioned.
It absolutely brings into question his arm. It is 100% totally about his lack of arm strength. They don't say those things about guys with strong arms.
ETA The gist is........he is a game manager that needs superior talent around him to succeed.
ETA to the ETA ......and that is from something you posted trying to negate what I have been saying. You just left out the the part that proves my point.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:14 am to MrAUTigers
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Looks like these are saying what I have been saying. Maybe I should be a scout?
But like me, you're just another guy that thinks he knows what he's talking about...and usually doesn't.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:18 am to coachcrisp
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you're just another guy that thinks he knows what he's talking about...and usually doesn't.
says who? I don't wear my schools colored glasses. You suck off any bama player just because they play/played at bama.
I saved this thread. We will revisit it in a few years. For whatever reason, saban can't develop NFL starting QB's. They are very good college QB's........and there is nothing wrong with that. AGAIN, Danny Wuerffel is the best college QB I have ever seen. He was lousy in the NFL. It is two very different games.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:32 am to MrAUTigers
quote:I'm proud of the players that play and have played for my school, but I'm quick to criticize when it's needed. If that's what you call "sucking off of", then so be it.
says who? I don't wear my schools colored glasses. You suck off any bama player just because they play/played at bama.
I saved this thread.
By the way, when the NFL season starts this coming Fall, Alabama/Saban will have three STARTING quarterbacks on the field....and you said that "saban can't develop NFL starting QB's.
As I said earlier, "you're just another guy that thinks he knows what he's talking about...and usually doesn't."
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:33 am to MrAUTigers
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It is two very different games.
No doubt.
Hell, the guys who (presumably) get paid a lot of money to scout get it wrong, a lot.
It's fun to talk about and speculate on, but no one really knows how most of these players will eventually pan out.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:33 am to coachcrisp
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Alabama/Saban will have three STARTING quarterbacks on the field.
name themPosted on 4/9/21 at 11:39 am to coachcrisp
Taking credit for Hurts now? How long does he start ?
Also, Gus has two QBs in the league that have started games, do you believe he develops NFL QBs? Lol
Also, Gus has two QBs in the league that have started games, do you believe he develops NFL QBs? Lol
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