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re: LSU going back to the old offense
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I'd say Brady was maybe 25% responsible for what LSU did in 2019. If he was ready to be an OC, why didnt LSU just make him OC?
Because O's buddy is the OC. I would think Brady is making more money as an NFL OC than he would as a college OC. It also seems Brady wants in the NFL as opposed to college.
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:55 pm to Crimsonians
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if your OC is going to just keep rolling like he did last year
That's exactly what I didn't say.
Maybe they want to keep it fresh every year. Get some new ideas, evaluate the talent, and design an offense to suit. They're just going through analysts here, not coaches.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:06 pm to MrAUTigers
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Because O's buddy is the OC
He doesnt want to be the OC though.
If Brady couldve just taken everything over, they wouldve given it to him.
I dont believe there is much of a difference in money but Brady didnt like recruiting.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:11 pm to MrAUTigers
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and I told you to make it a gazillion $$$$.....not a penny less.
Skeert
I’ll do $1,000
Posted on 2/7/20 at 8:16 pm to 00 Tech Grad
What happens if u run an nfl offense without a nfl caliber qb . A disaster!
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 11:03 pm to MrAUTigers
Most transfers come in to new program right after spring semester ends. Some might transfer in for the spring semester. Burow arrived a couple of weeks before fall camp. He had no time to develop chemistry with his WRs. He didn't know everyones name when practice started.
When LSU returned for the '19 spring semester SE gave Joey B the new play book. LSU's QBs, RBs and receivers had the spring, all their summer players only (Oline included) workouts and fall camp to learn new offense. Much different story than going into the '18 season.
When LSU returned for the '19 spring semester SE gave Joey B the new play book. LSU's QBs, RBs and receivers had the spring, all their summer players only (Oline included) workouts and fall camp to learn new offense. Much different story than going into the '18 season.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:03 am to MrAUTigers
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I don't. If Brady's grew on trees, everybody would have one. Brady is obviously a genius in the passing game. It is why he went from being a WR coach/passing game coordinator to being an NFL OC in one year. He is an anomaly. LSU caught lightning in a bottle with him.
Maybe you are right. Just my feeling? I think Brady brought the scheme with him and LSU learned the basics from him. They might not be able to replicate the play calling and the ability to set their plays up the same, but I think the basics of the offense will remain. That's why i said they will not be as explosive but still very good.
Again, though...you could also be right. If LSU fans think losing Brady will have no affect at all they will be severely disappointed, though, imo.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:15 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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What's odd is that UGA fans refuse to admit that Ensminger beat them like a drum with a Les Miles offense to the tune of 36-16 in 2018.
What Georgia fans said LSU didn't beat us? Find me one and I will call them a liar to their face.
On the other hand, if you know what I am saying is correct and have no argument to refute it, then you can always deflect by saying 36-16. Seems that is all LSU fans can say, anyway.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:43 am to DawgsLife
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Again, though...you could also be right. If LSU fans think losing Brady will have no affect at all they will be severely disappointed, though, imo.
I mean shouldn't fans wait to see who O hires as a replacement ? I admire O for vetting all the candidates instead of making a rush hire just to coddle fans. The fact that O made significant changes last season and won a championship should have earned him some trust from the fans.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:31 am to kajunman
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I mean shouldn't fans wait to see who O hires as a replacement ?
Absolutely. that's why I said that suspect the offense would take a small step backwards but would be fine. The system is there.
That said, one of the LSU posters is insisting that Ensminger called the plays and was 75% of the offensive planning and play calling. If that is the case, then I think the offense will take a bigger step back considering the personnel they lost.
Like you said....it will come down to who Orgeron hires. He made a great hire last time and I see no reason why he can't make a great hire this time.
quote:Once again, I agree with you. To me, the biggest pro about Orgeron is that he makes a hire then allows them to do what they were hired to do. Too many coaches want to keep their fingers in too many areas of the offense/defense. Yes, the coach should review the game plans and give input, but you hired the coaches to do a job. Let them do it. Orgeron seems to be able to check his ego at the door and do just that.
The fact that O made significant changes last season and won a championship should have earned him some trust from the fans.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:50 am to DawgsLife
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Orgeron seems to be able to check his ego at the door and do just that.
By far his biggest improvement as a coach. Best thing that happened to O is the loss to Troy. Sometimes you have to bottom out to grow. It's harder to stay on top than getting there but getting there lays the foundation for future success. I think O has managed that very well.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:08 am to Crimsonians
How long has brady been gone? EdO just started interviewing for his old spot. He's not just going to hire anybody. He wants to make sure it's the right fit and that whoever he hires is able to work alongside SE. EdO wants to make sure there wouldn't be any friction between the two in the pressbox.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:17 am to DawgsLife
The word on the street in BR is SE called first and second down and Brady called third down. Which according to Kirby when UGA went to break down film of LSU's third down plays. There weren't many. Plus Brady called plays from the 12 yard line in the red zone.
As for the game planning it was a three headed monster, SE, Brady and even Joey B was included.
As for the game planning it was a three headed monster, SE, Brady and even Joey B was included.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:39 pm to 167back
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The word on the street in BR is SE called first and second down and Brady called third down.
I get what you are saying, but I just don't see it. In football it isn't a matter of calling a play according to the situation, although that plays a large part of the decision making process.....but it is calling a play to see how the defense reacts, lines up etc, so you can call another play later in the game that capitalizes off the earlier play. (If that makes sense) One play that sets up another play. if you change who is calling plays in the middle of a posession that would destroy the continuity and a lot of flow and set ups. It would quickly turn into a mess. LSU's offense was smooth calculated and ferocious. I can't imagine them allowing two different people to swap back and forth during a drive.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:51 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Joe Burrow's ability to escape the rush and extend plays with his legs cant be replicated by any one of LSU current QBs.
Nothing really about the offensive scheme was unstoppable. It was Joe's ability to not get sacked and run for timely 1st downs that made it difficult to stop LSU.
Most QB that have that type of ability can't throw a lick. Most QBs that are accurate and can throw are not adept at avoiding sacks with their feet.
Joe just did both very well. Myles Brennan doesn't really do either close to the level of Joe.
LSU will undoubtedly be average offense.
Nothing really about the offensive scheme was unstoppable. It was Joe's ability to not get sacked and run for timely 1st downs that made it difficult to stop LSU.
Most QB that have that type of ability can't throw a lick. Most QBs that are accurate and can throw are not adept at avoiding sacks with their feet.
Joe just did both very well. Myles Brennan doesn't really do either close to the level of Joe.
LSU will undoubtedly be average offense.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:06 pm to DawgsLife
Y'all are all looking at this wrong. The past doesn't matter. Ensminger obviously knows the offense from 2019 because he called plays out of it. It doesn't matter who installed it. It's the offense Lsu runs.
I mean it's not like the staff at Lsu says, OK Brady's gone, I have no confidence to call a play without him sitting next to me.
It's the offense, it May be a bit more run heavy with some added run plays but the base offense is the 2019 offense
I mean it's not like the staff at Lsu says, OK Brady's gone, I have no confidence to call a play without him sitting next to me.
It's the offense, it May be a bit more run heavy with some added run plays but the base offense is the 2019 offense
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:08 pm to BhamDore
How do you know anything about Myles Brennan? He's got a quicker release and stronger arm. That's not debatable. Why don't you go watch his highlight video at least
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:09 pm to BhamDore
So lsu will be average on offense with Jon Emery, terrace marshall Jamarr chase,arik Gilbert. Ok
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:10 pm to Tigerpride18
You were average on O two years ago with all of the studs you had last year.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 4:43 pm to Tigerpride18
Doesn't matter. LSU never has good pass protection. Plenty of teams got to Burrow all year, but very few could get him on the ground. 2019 was one of the better LSU O-lines in a few years and it was still pedestrian, but Burrows escapability masked a lot of deficiencies.
Myles looks lanky and stiff. He ran 4.99 back when he was only 180 lbs. He probably even slower now. With that type of QB you need elite pass protection.
Stiff immobile QBs are obsolete. The defensive line prowess has drastically outpaced the offensive line play.
Myles looks lanky and stiff. He ran 4.99 back when he was only 180 lbs. He probably even slower now. With that type of QB you need elite pass protection.
Stiff immobile QBs are obsolete. The defensive line prowess has drastically outpaced the offensive line play.
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