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re: LSU going back to the old offense

Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:14 pm to
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Trust me. he has never run an offense like LSU had this past year.


Outside of LSU, dude has only been an offensive coordinator at major programs for 3 other seasons.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:15 pm to
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As Georgia's passing game coordinator in the early 1990s, the Bulldogs threw it all over the lot. The word when Ensminger was fired at Texas A&M in 1996 was it because he didn't run the ball enough.





Really? You actually believe that "throwing it all over the lot" is what LSU did this past season?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:16 pm to
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Outside of LSU, dude has only been an offensive coordinator at major programs for 3 other seasons.




Yeah....yet you think he devised and taught an offense like LSU ran in less than a year?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:16 pm to
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It is odd that they refuse to admit that the offense was different in 2018 from what it was in 2019.


It boggles the mind.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:16 pm to
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see 2018.


You mean when Burrow came in right before the season and had basically no time to build chemistry with his receivers or playcallers?

Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:16 pm to
Oh yeah, I forgot y’all are used to that.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:20 pm to
They keep referencing their last three games of 2018 and all the poitns they scored.

They played:
The big OT game against Texas A&M
UCF
Rice

Hey...I think they will find somebody to do what Brady did and will be fine. probably not quite as explosive but still be very good.

I just think the stand they are taking is odd, that's all.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:20 pm to
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see 2018.


You mean when Burrow came in right before the season and had basically no time to build chemistry with his receivers or playcallers?



no, I mean how different the O style of play was.

ETA and Burrow came in when any grad transfer does. He had the exact same amount of time to learn last years O, after Brady came in, as he did to learn Ensminger's O the year before.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52487 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:21 pm to
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yet you think he devised and taught an offense like LSU ran in less than a year?


I never said that, but Brady didnt come in, teach this offense, and run it.

If he was capable of that, why even keep E at OC?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:21 pm to
Hey look. I wasn't meaning any disrespect to LSU or Steve Ensminger. If you want to believe he was the driving force behind the offense, that's fine. Either way, I think LSU will be fine.

Y'all have a good night. Gotta run.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52487 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:22 pm to
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and Burrow came in when any grad transfer does. He had the exact same amount of time to learn last years O, after Brady came in, as he did to learn Ensminger's O the year before.


Now thats just completely false.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:24 pm to
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I never said that, but Brady didnt come in, teach this offense, and run it.


Yes, you more or less did. you said Brady was just the receivers coach and gave insight to a different scheme. Trust me....you don't learn plays and how to set them up that quickly. Brady was calling the plays. He know which plays to call and how to set them up. to think otherwise either says you do not understand football at a high level, or you are just naive, or just do not want to face facts.

It doesn't matter. If you believe it it doesn't affect how LSU does next year anyway. Have a good evening, man.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:25 pm to
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I think they will find somebody to do what Brady did and will be fine.


I don't. If Brady's grew on trees, everybody would have one. Brady is obviously a genius in the passing game. It is why he went from being a WR coach/passing game coordinator to being an NFL OC in one year. He is an anomaly. LSU caught lightning in a bottle with him.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52487 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:27 pm to
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Brady was calling the plays. 


Literally everyone involved said this wasnt happening and there's no reason to even keep E at OC if Brady had it under control.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52487 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:29 pm to
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It is why he went from being a WR coach/passing game coordinator to being an NFL OC in one year.


I mean Kliff Kingsbury went from being fired at Texas Tech to an NFL head coach in no time at all. People in the NFL take chances all the time.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:36 pm to
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I mean Kliff Kingsbury went from being fired at Texas Tech to an NFL head coach in no time at all. People in the NFL take chances all the time.




Kingsbury had been a HC for six years.

Brady was an offense assistant for two years with the Saints and at LSU for one year. Brady didn't even begin his coaching career until 2013....as a LB coach.

Brady was given the opportunity as NFL OC because of what he did at LSU....how the O totally turned around with him on staff. Ensminger can get credit for "calling the plays" all he wants. Anybody with a modicum of common sense can see the affect Brady had on the O.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm to
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but it wasn't the O you ran last year.

Dude, it wasn't the O LSU ran in the first 9 games of 2018 either.



LSU showed a commitment to spread out the defense and throw the ball. Was it the same route trees? Protection? Progressions? No, no, no. With any luck, in 2020, LSU will be throwing the ball for >65%, 350+ yards, and 3-4 TDs, without the same route trees, protection or progressions as 2019 either.

2018 LSU O =/= 2019 LSU O =/= 2020 LSU O - EXCEPT that LSU will be throwing the ball efficiently, and scoring a lot of TDs. No one wants the exact same thing every year.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52487 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Kingsbury had been a HC for six years


And he'd been so good at it that he was fired and was going to USC to be their OC before the Cards came calling.

Quite a fall up.

But young, offensive minds are all the rage now days so you take a chance if one comes around.

I'd say Brady was maybe 25% responsible for what LSU did in 2019. If he was ready to be an OC, why didnt LSU just make him OC?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:44 pm to
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It is odd that they refuse to admit that the offense was different in 2018 from what it was in 2019.

What's odd is that UGA fans refuse to admit that Ensminger beat them like a drum with a Les Miles offense to the tune of 36-16 in 2018.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:48 pm to
Don't know if it has been asked, but if your OC is going to just keep rolling like he did last year, why such an emphasis on this passion g coordinator? Shouldn't matter who he is if Ems just keeps on what Brady was doing.
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