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re: LSU fans, honest question...
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:59 am to skrayper
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:59 am to skrayper
Honest answer: the attrition was equivalent to 2 big early classes declaring for the draft the same offseason. Too much for LSU to he a real player for the playoffs in 2020. That doesn’t mean Pellini didn’t do a bad job preparing for State.
This team will improve and if Brennan stays patient and healthy LSU will be nasty in 2021.
This team will improve and if Brennan stays patient and healthy LSU will be nasty in 2021.
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:04 am to diddlydawg7
quote:the problem in week 1 wasn't any particular thing on offense. it was everything. one play it was a sack. the next is was brennan. the next was a drop. the offense looked VERY different in week 2. yeah, yeah it was vandy. putting up 40+ points on the road in the sec is impressive. also, what's getting overlooked is that even though lsu wasn't running smoothly against state, the offense still put up 27 points. that does not bode well for the rest of the conference.
The fact that they gave up 7 sacks to Mississippi St does not bode well for them
it's been mentioned that lsu will face some really great offenses. lsu's offense looks like it might be able to score enough points to keep it somewhat close. fla's d isn't anything to write home about giving up 24 at home to a horrid scar offense and bama gave up 24 at home to a&m who aren't exactly lighting the world on fire.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:06 am to America1776
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And yet, my point remains—They were woefully unprepared in the SEC championship game.
No they weren’t. LSU’s offense was too good. The #2 scoring defense was Clemson and y’all destroyed them too.
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I remember seeing UGA only faced one or two starting QBs all of last year at some point.
That’s just not true.
- Vandy QB (Starter)
- Murray St QB (Starter)
- Ian Book (Starter)
- Arkansas State QB (Starter)
- Brian Mauer (Arguably better than Guantanamo)
- Ryan Hilinski (won the starting job over Bentley eventually)
- Lynn Bowden (Not the starter
) - Kyle Trask (Not the starter but better than Franks and you know it)
- Missouri QB (Not the starter)
- Bo Nix (Starter)
- Mond (Starter)
- GT QB (Starter)
- Burrow (Starter)
- Baylor QB (Starter)
9 starters
2 backups
3 backups that were better than the starters
Here’s a stat for you. Auburn averaged 33.2 PPG last year. That’s #28 in the country. If you take our game with them out of the equation, they average 35 PPG, which moves them up to #17.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:07 am to skrayper
quote:Don't have to wonder, pelini straight up said he did not think they were ready for zone
That's what I wondered too... if without Stingley, and with all those younger guys, that they were reluctant to run zone.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:11 am to skrayper
quote:the game is different now. looking around the conference, no defense is shutting down offenses with a pulse (MAYBE with the exception of uga/auburn but lsu doesn't play uga). a LOT of points are being scored by almost everyone. now the game is just get a few stops. lsu's d and staff are absolutely capable of that in any game. will it happen? who knows. in this season, you have no idea who is going to be on the roster for any given game.
That is a HORRIBLY young secondary, especially in SEC play. Considering LSU will face at least three more really strong passing attacks (Ole Miss, Alabama and Florida) that's going to be rough sledding
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:11 am to skrayper
Zone and 3-4 man pass rush wins the game. Hell, if we ran the ball a bit more we would have won. Youth and new staff did us in. Lots of talent on this team, just young and the new coaches are figuring out who can do what. We will give everyone hell after the Florida game.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:12 am to diddlydawg7
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- Brian Mauer (Arguably better than Guantanamo)
- Ryan Hilinski (won the starting job over Bentley eventually)
- Lynn Bowden (Not the starter )
- Kyle Trask (Not the starter but better than Franks and you know it)
Lol but y’all faced Hilinski’s backup for a majority of that game, especially when it mattered. Maybe the number I saw was in SEC games, and again, at one point in the season.
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LSU’s offense was too good
I understand that line of thinking, but what if Georgia had faced Tua before then? Wouldn’t you rather see something similar early in the season and be able to prepare/game plan for it instead of just going in blind, rushing 3 DL??
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:14 am to atomic31
quote:this was supposed to be the weak spot. stingley returning shored up the dbacks. the lb's have been suspect though. the talent is there and the scheme is not quite as complicated so hopefully they will start to put it together
Luckily for LSU, the D-line is playing pretty well
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:18 am to diddlydawg7
Take Ole Miss-LSU for example. Had Plumlee not run all over the D, maybe we aren’t ready for Mond (lol), Jalen, and Trevor.
I’d rather know about the issue before and fix it, but that’s just me!
I’d rather know about the issue before and fix it, but that’s just me!
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:18 am to America1776
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Lol but y’all faced Hilinski’s backup for a majority of that game, especially when it mattered.
And they scored 0 points with him.
SC only scored 7 points on our defense to be honest. They scored a FG after Fromm threw an INT on our own 20. They had a pick-six, and then made a FG in OT.
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I understand that line of thinking, but what if Georgia had faced Tua before then? Wouldn’t you rather see something similar early in the season and be able to prepare/game plan for it instead of just going in blind, rushing 3 DL??
I actually wasn’t upset with our gameplan. Even rushing 3, we put pressure on Burrow. Unfortunately he escaped.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:21 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:this is what everyone in the stadium couldn't understand, especially after seeing stingley kill it last year doing this time and time again. how did they not learn from that? it will be interesting to see if this continues going forward. stingley and ricks are playing on the outside and ricks already has 2 picks so i think he's good on this.
had our backs turned
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:22 am to diddlydawg7
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And they scored 0 points with him
Won in OT without scoring?
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Even rushing 3, we put pressure on Burrow.
There was a TD pass in the first quarter that had Gary laughing. Burrow was 90% when opponents rushed 3 last year. Playing into the opponent’s strengths is bold.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:22 am to skrayper
Due to injuries and illnesses, LSU’s defense was not prepared to win that game. If LSU could have established the run sooner, they may have been able to shorten the game enough to keep pace, but they were playing from behind most of the game. Brennan also could have played better, but I think our personnel in the secondary just straight up weren’t ready to play, and that is hugely concerning. Losing your star corner shouldn’t cause your entire defensive scheme to completely unravel like that.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:23 am to bfniii
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this is what everyone in the stadium couldn't understand, especially after seeing stingley kill it last year doing this time and time again. how did they not learn from that? it will be interesting to see if this continues going forward. stingley and ricks are playing on the outside and ricks already has 2 picks so i think he's good on this.
What I was getting at was not necessarily poor coverage down the field, but once a guy caught the short Pass, he had green everywhere because our guys were in man down the field. Zone eliminates that space and allows us to tackle and not give up 3rd and forevers like they are automatic
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:24 am to America1776
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Won in OT without scoring?
He shouldn’t get credit when you get the ball and are already in FG range.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:25 am to diddlydawg7
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He shouldn’t get credit when you get the ball and are already in FG range.
FaIr enough. Didn’t stop Fromm from screwing it up though
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:26 am to r2d2
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Honest answer: the attrition was equivalent to 2 big early classes declaring for the draft the same offseason. Too much for LSU to he a real player for the playoffs in 2020. That doesn’t mean Pellini didn’t do a bad job preparing for State
Yep combination of both. LSU had 12 DBs on the roster (if you include J Stevens). Some apparently aren't good enough to play yet. Either Darren Evans, transfer from Nicholls State who had been on campus for a few weeks or Jay Ward (3* who was coming off a meniscus surgery) played the whole game at CB
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:28 am to diddlydawg7
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And they scored 0 points with him.
And, once again, this is my entire point. Y’all shut out a 3rd string QB. It helps the stat line, but it, obviously, didn’t prepare the team to go up against elite talent.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:37 am to America1776
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FaIr enough. Didn’t stop Fromm from screwing it up though
I’m not sure what you are arguing anymore...
Georgia had the #1 scoring defense. They played 6 top 30 offenses.
San Diego St had the #2 scoring defense. They only played 1 top 30 offense.
Clemson had the #3 scoring defense. They only played 2 top 30 offenses.
Ohio State had the #4 scoring defense. They only played 3 top 30 offenses.
Georgia played tougher offenses than anyone in the top 5 of scoring defense and still finished #1. That should tell you that they easily had the best defense in the country last year.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:40 am to skrayper
Honestly, I think it was a little bit of everything you just mentioned.
Between the season opener, freshman playing positions they did not practice at, KJ's Godlike accuracy(This being most important), scheme, and coaching it just set up as a loss.
Could we have won that game in two weeks? It is possible; however, I am not making that excuse.
Between the season opener, freshman playing positions they did not practice at, KJ's Godlike accuracy(This being most important), scheme, and coaching it just set up as a loss.
Could we have won that game in two weeks? It is possible; however, I am not making that excuse.
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