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re: LSU administrator claims years of harassment after reporting Les Miles
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:19 am to ColoradoAg
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:19 am to ColoradoAg
quote:No one's getting banned for posting what you've supposedly heard from a random source.
So I can be banned from the board for anti-LSU propaganda? No thanks. Besides, I like him at LSU. He's much less dangerous than a competent coach. Napier would kill it at that school
IF you knew about this Sharon Lewis expose that just hit, then go ahead and tell us in detail the next big bombshell that will drop.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:21 am to ColoradoAg
Pay close attention to how you flip flop between insisting that LSU is installing "all new plays and schemes" but then you again insist that Orgeron is forcing his OC to run the current system.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:24 am to Bench McElroy
Football program with 10 years of sexual misconduct coached by a man who had multiple misconduct charges through the years;
Basketball program led by coach caught on FBI tape discussing large payments to recruits;
Tennis program coaches accused of multiple sexual misconduct and coverup;
University with nationwide publicity about coverups, all tied back to athletes;
Any ex-LSU administrator or coach fingered in these “ongoing” investigations has been fired from their jobs at other Universities. So universities have taken the LSU charges seriously... all except one..
LSU has taken no action except wring hands, establish committee and try to run out the clock. They have turned normal fans on here into excuses making apologists, amorally declaring:
- “others do it (not true),”
- “it’s ok if we win (OMG),”
- “nothing is proven,”
- “he only talked about it...it doesn’t mean he did it (do you think everyone is stupid?),”
- “all girl friends sleep around,”
- “it was consensual with the 14 year old... team vote,”
- “let’s hear it for being ‘gangstas’ and bad boys (and you wonder why the NCAA, SEC and most sober sports fans look at LSU with a jaundiced eye?),” etc. etc.
When does the fan base say “enough,?” Get rid of O, Wade, clean house, hire truly good coaches, go into the locker rooms and change that harassing frat boy culture? LSU could be a top school athletically.. but it will never be with this lying, cheating, abusing culture mentality that infects the staff and players. “Gangsta” only gets you so far...
Clean house, get right, move up.
Basketball program led by coach caught on FBI tape discussing large payments to recruits;
Tennis program coaches accused of multiple sexual misconduct and coverup;
University with nationwide publicity about coverups, all tied back to athletes;
Any ex-LSU administrator or coach fingered in these “ongoing” investigations has been fired from their jobs at other Universities. So universities have taken the LSU charges seriously... all except one..
LSU has taken no action except wring hands, establish committee and try to run out the clock. They have turned normal fans on here into excuses making apologists, amorally declaring:
- “others do it (not true),”
- “it’s ok if we win (OMG),”
- “nothing is proven,”
- “he only talked about it...it doesn’t mean he did it (do you think everyone is stupid?),”
- “all girl friends sleep around,”
- “it was consensual with the 14 year old... team vote,”
- “let’s hear it for being ‘gangstas’ and bad boys (and you wonder why the NCAA, SEC and most sober sports fans look at LSU with a jaundiced eye?),” etc. etc.
When does the fan base say “enough,?” Get rid of O, Wade, clean house, hire truly good coaches, go into the locker rooms and change that harassing frat boy culture? LSU could be a top school athletically.. but it will never be with this lying, cheating, abusing culture mentality that infects the staff and players. “Gangsta” only gets you so far...
Clean house, get right, move up.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:25 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Why derail this thread with actual football related posts from him?
SidewalkTiger
Put the red hot light on his alleged sources that are feeding him info on the LSU AD. He said he'd warned everyone about Sharon Lewis and now we see the latest news on her claims of "years of harassment" hit the news today.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:27 am to The Nino
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With flow charts
Tic Toc Tic Toc......
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:33 am to Bench McElroy
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Attorneys for Lewis says they will file a Title IX lawsuit against the university after their client claims she was underpaid and "tormented and discriminated based on sex and race" after blowing the whistle on Miles.
DING DING DING, we have a winner.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:41 am to RT1941
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Put the red hot light on his alleged sources that are feeding him info on the LSU AD.
You can't, that's the genius of his act
He never really says anything, just vague, ominous statements about "more coming" but he usually follows it up with a caveat like "maybe it comes out, maybe it doesn't" so he can never actually be proven wrong.
The only missteps he's made is when he makes a statement and then accidentally contradicts himself, like in the exchange I posted.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:42 am to RT1941
Let us simply say that Orgeron apparently knew everything that Les Miles was accused of (hard to prove short of witnesses), and is part of that internal football culture issues - they knew his silence was assured. He was originally hired because LSU didn't want to go outside of the program until it all could be covered up sufficiently. Woodward was hired because of the people he knew, and to navigate any potential issues with the NCAA. As somebody else said, apparently he knows all the right people.
Most LSU fans have known about Miles for years (even if just rumor), but they didn't really care until he began to lose. What I'm interested to see is if anything will come of it all now that it is public knowledge. Like I said before, I doubt it. If LSU wouldn't fire Wade, any coach is safe until public opinion turns. Just win, and it never will.
Recently, a "muzzle" was put on Orgeron. He will not say anything after his latest media incidents. I expect business as usual in BR ... and now if Orgeron has another bad year, LSU will have the means to fire him with cause. I was told that LSU had enough dirt to never have to actually pay a buyout if it comes to that point.
All supposition, that seems very likely.
And Sidewalk - it is STILL a new OC/DC no matter what schemes they run. Peetz might actually know the system and be a super-genius. Then again, he might not. And the DC will have a completely different defense. We will see if LSU can recover from a truly disastrous year soon enough
Most LSU fans have known about Miles for years (even if just rumor), but they didn't really care until he began to lose. What I'm interested to see is if anything will come of it all now that it is public knowledge. Like I said before, I doubt it. If LSU wouldn't fire Wade, any coach is safe until public opinion turns. Just win, and it never will.
Recently, a "muzzle" was put on Orgeron. He will not say anything after his latest media incidents. I expect business as usual in BR ... and now if Orgeron has another bad year, LSU will have the means to fire him with cause. I was told that LSU had enough dirt to never have to actually pay a buyout if it comes to that point.
All supposition, that seems very likely.
And Sidewalk - it is STILL a new OC/DC no matter what schemes they run. Peetz might actually know the system and be a super-genius. Then again, he might not. And the DC will have a completely different defense. We will see if LSU can recover from a truly disastrous year soon enough
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:42 am to Bench McElroy
quote:I for one thank Les for addressing this
recruiting girls were ugly
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:48 am to ColoradoAg
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If LSU wouldn't fire Wade, any coach is safe until public opinion turns. Just win, and it never will.
You act like LSU just gave Wade a lifetime contract.
Instead they amended his contract to make it easier to fire him and Wade lost $400k in bonuses.
Any of your "sauces" think Woodward is in any hurry to approve a new contract for Wade?
He has two years left on his current one.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:50 am to ColoradoAg
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Let us simply say that Orgeron apparently knew everything that Les Miles was accused of (hard to prove short of witnesses), and is part of that internal football culture issues - they knew his silence was assured. He was originally hired because LSU didn't want to go outside of the program until it all could be covered up sufficiently.
I'm failing to see why any of this would matter.
1. Orgeron was at USC when the Miles' issues supposedly happened.
2. Orgeron isn't obligated to "blow a whistle" on Miles even if he did know about stuff that happened years before he came to Baton Rouge.
No crimes were committed and the appropriate administrators obviously knew about it long before O was hired.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:53 am to ColoradoAg
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He was originally hired because LSU didn't want to go outside of the program until it all could be covered up sufficiently
This is total bullshite.
It is well known that LSU went hard after Herman and especially Jimbo. O was the third option and he knows it and has said as much (very recently).
Or are you also alleging that Herman and Jimbo were only considered because they would aid in covering up Miles' sins?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:54 am to BrerTiger
LSU doesn't want to fire any of these people because they win. What will be interesting to watch is if the media can force a change of public perception - they managed to do so at Baylor which is a similar situation. Wade will be the coach at LSU for awhile unless he does something stupid. Same goes for Orgeron. Same goes for the entire AD.
Meanwhile, Kansas fired Miles and Oregon State fired Alexander. All because of what is coming out of BR.
Meanwhile, Kansas fired Miles and Oregon State fired Alexander. All because of what is coming out of BR.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:57 am to BrerTiger
quote:Herman makes Orgeron look like a freaking Saint in comparison. I have no idea about Fisher. I worry about Fisher, and if something similar came out about him I would call for his head as would many Aggies. I definitely think he has done some shady stuff in his past
It is well known that LSU went hard after Herman and especially Jimbo
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:58 am to ColoradoAg
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Wade will be the coach at LSU for awhile unless he does something stupid.
Or the NCAA drops the NOA. It's a game of wait and see.
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Meanwhile, Kansas fired Miles
Highly expendable as he was 0-10 last year at Kansas.
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Oregon State fired Alexander
Can't put that cancel culture genie back in the bottle. In Alexander's own language, that is "reality, I think."
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What will be interesting to watch is if the media can force a change of public perception - they managed to do so at Baylor which is a similar situation
Yes, we all know every Aggy is hardlegging the narrative that LSU is Baylor 2.0
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:00 pm to BrerTiger
I believe ColoradoAg is attempting to tell us that Orgeron should be fired because he knew that Les Miles might've been trying to get frisky with coeds years before Orgeron actually came to LSU.
Is that what he's saying?
Is that what he's saying?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:00 pm to ColoradoAg
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I worry about Fisher, and if something similar came out about him I would call for his head as would many Aggies. I definitely think he has done some shady stuff in his past
Finally, we agree on something.
Husch Blackwell is on standby if Aggy decides y'all want to do a deep dive into your athletic department.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:01 pm to Bench McElroy
Rohan Gravy is not to be harmed!
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:02 pm to BrerTiger
You really don't see the similarities to Baylor? Especially with Title IX and investigations
- Les Miles and Briles are two birds of a feather
- Les Miles and Briles are two birds of a feather
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:04 pm to ColoradoAg
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You really don't see the similarities to Baylor? Especially with Title IX and investigations
Why don't you and your Aggy brethren start a ATPB type thread with flowcharts and what not?
Paint the picture for us that LSU is indeed Baylor 2.0.
I recommend MS Paint. It really is the best medium.
I will RA for a sticky.
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