re: Looking into these new national title claims by Auburn and three of them may be the worst

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koreandawg

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AUBsessed

Still?

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Uga will never have more National championships than Auburn in your lifetime

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UGA already has more legit titles.

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They finished second to a team that ended up being ineligible.

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Let me check on this claim….nope, USC still has the AP title, and Auburn has none. Also, didn’t Auburn just claim a bunch of titles won by probationary ‘ineligible’ teams? This is really your argument?

I honestly don't care about the 1800's to WW2 era titles. The game was in its infancy, schools like Yale, Princeton, Army, and Navy were dominating, selection criteria was extremely varied, and none of us were alive. If it means something to you, hang those banners all you want.

The more ridiculous claims to me are years like 1983, 1993, and 2004. All were really good teams but the selection process by then was pretty fine tuned with the AP poll having been around for 50 years and then the Bowl Coalition/Alliance and BCS eventually matching 1 v 2 for true national title games.

Does it suck that 2004 AU didn't have a playoff chance or that there were 2 other undefeated teams? Yes. But the BCS was the established system and it didn't consider you a top two team. Everyone remembers USC beating Oklahoma in the national title game.

Nobody's crying about Auburn. Why would we, especially among the Dawg Nation? We're all laughing at Auburn for trying so desperately to declare some sibilance of relevancy.

Well let’s see, Auburn loses 23-0 at home to USC. Both teams return virtually everyone and are much improved in 2004. Auburn is the better team and would win on a neutral field.

That makes 0 sense and is textbook auburn stupidity. And if anything, it would been even worse. 2003 was Campbell’s 3rd year as starter, Matt Leinart’s first collegiate pass was in that Auburn game

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Billingsley was just a fan who later became a pastor.

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Sounds like it was ordained by God.

I don't necessarily blame Auburn fans for claiming national titles where at least one poll selected them as such but they've forever forfeited any high ground to scrutinize any of Alabama's national title claims other than the 1941 claim which is Alabama's only truly absurd title claim.

For all the ridicule Auburn fans (and a few other rival fanbases and commentators) have given Alabama fans for many of our national title claims, every non-AP title Alabama claims (other than 1941) had as many or more polls naming Alabama the national champions than all the new championship claims Auburn added.

If Alabama counted title claims the same way Auburn just did they could claim even more titles than the school officially claims now.

For example, here are new national title seasons that Alabama doesn't currently claim that they could using the same critieria Auburn is now using to claim 1910 and 1913 as national title claims...

1945 - Alabama went 10-0 including a blowout win in the Rose Bowl - awarded nat't title by NCF. Army went 9-0 and was the overwhelming pick as nat'l champions (and rightfully so)

1962 - Alabama went 10-1 and was named nat'l champs by BR (same lone pollster that named Auburn in 1910 and 1913). Ole Miss went 10-0 that season and was named nat'l champ by 3 pollsters. USC went 11-0 and was the overwhelming pick that year.

1966 - The infamous "missing ring" season. Alabama went 11-0 after winning back to back AP titles in '64 and '65 and was named nat'l champs by pollsters but finished 3rd in the major polls behind Notre
Dame and Michigan State who played to a tie finishing 9-0-1 respectively.


1975 Alabama - finished 11-1 and named nat'l champions by 1 pollster (MGR). Oklahoma who went 11-1 was rightfully named nat'l champion by AP, UPI, and a majority of the pollsters

1977 Alabama - Alabama's season (and legtimate argument to be named nat'l champion that season) was very similar to Auburn's 1983 nat'l title worthy season. 1983 Auburn went undefeated against a strong schedule after losing its season opener at home against a strong Texas team. Alabama opened the 1977 season with a close loss @ Nebraska before running the table. Alabama soundly defeated the same Ole Miss team that went on to upset Notre Dame a few weeks later. #2 lost their bowl game while #3 Alabama blew out Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl. Yet #5 Notre Dame who beat #1 Texas in their bowl game leapfrogged #3 Alabama for the national title much the same was Miami leapfrogged Auburn after beating #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl in 1983. 1977 Alabama was arguably screwed even worse than 1983 Auburn due to soundly defeating a common opponent that Notre Dame lost to.

Those are just the examples from the 1960s and 1970s and don't even get into the 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934 nat'l title claims that Auburn fans give Alabama fans crap for claiming despite Alabama going 10-0 in 3 of those seasons (and 9-0-1 in 1926).

1925 Alabama - went 10-0 including an upset win in the Rose Bowl and named nat'l champions by 9 pollsters compared to Dartmouth being named by 2 pollsters at season's end

1926 Alabama - Went 9-0-1 and tied 10-0-1 Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Alabama was named nat'l champs by 6 pollsters while Stanford was named nat'l champs by 4 pollsters

1930 Alabama - went 10-0 including a Rose Bowl win and was named nat'l champs by 4 pollsters. Notre Dame who is widely considered to have the strongest nat'l championship claim that season also went 10-0 and was named nat'l champs by 9 pollsters that season.

1934 Alabama - went 10-0 and again won the Rose Bowl and was named nat'l champs by 6 of the pollsters. Minnesota who is generally considered THE national champion that season went 8-0 and was named nat'l champion by 8 of the pollsters

Long story short, Alabama (the school) claims 4 pre-AP nat'l titles for 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934. but doesn't claim a 1945 season in which Alabama went 10-0 with a blowout win the Rose Bowl.

Alabama doesn't claim 1962 and 1975 either...seasons they were awarded a national title by at least 1 pollster but seasons where another team or teams were much more deserving

Finally, Alabama doesn't claim either 1966 or 1977...two seasons they have at least as strong a national title claim as 1983 Auburn does

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It’s very embarrassing..I can’t believe anyone in their fandom thinks this was a goood idea…..how did this happen.

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It screams little brother and look at me.

I'm happy LSU doesn't do this. Legit title counts >>>>>>> fake title counts.