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Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:10 pm to Murph4HOF
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:10 pm to Murph4HOF
Lol... I was commenting on perceived class and social status gerrymandering and not race. Sorry you wasted time looking up racial demographics, I assumed it was implied given the context.
Find an Oxford School District map. It gets rather creative on the periphery within Lafayette County with little Oxford enclaves popping up.
Find an Oxford School District map. It gets rather creative on the periphery within Lafayette County with little Oxford enclaves popping up.
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:16 pm to Che Boludo
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Lol... I was commenting on perceived class and social status gerrymandering and not race. Sorry you wasted time looking up racial demographics, I assumed it was implied given the context.
Find an Oxford School District map. It gets rather creative on the periphery within Lafayette County with little Oxford enclaves popping up.
Just looked it up. Oxford seems to have all the projects in their school district.
You might want to do some reading on why those enclaves off of Hwy 30 (among others) exist.
Here's a hint... it isn't because some subdivision built in the last 20 years wanted to be in the city school district.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:34 pm to Che Boludo
Kind of always heard that and felt that but again I’m a few states away sometimes live in my little corner.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:39 pm to Murph4HOF
To give you some background, one of the first projects I worked on for my first employer involved an efficiency improvement study for Mississippi public schools. We were divided into 3 teams, one for north Miss focusing around the Memphis sprawl into MS, one for the Jackson metro area, and one for the coast. Originally I was on the Jackson team, but after some personnel changes I was moved to the North MS team.
We focused on the major LOCs heading to/from Memphis, obviously I-55 and what's now I-22 were areas of deep study for us since growth would likely occur on those corridors (and they have). Lafayette County was grouped in a well since it was wedged between I-55 and US 78.
We presented our findings via Telecon and my recommended COAs for efficacy improvement (1 very ambitious, 1 moderate, and 1 minor) were all met with a lot of skepticism from the Mississippi people. I understood that for the strongest COA, and maybe even the moderate COA, but the amount of pushback on all three was surprising. The Jackson team's COAs were met with even stronger resistance. The coast guys got a warm reception for their COAs.
Our clients invite the Jackson team and my team to send people to MS to see why those COAs were overly ambitious and that there were factors we were not considering that needed to be seen in person to be fully understood.
So I go to MS for 8 weeks and get paired with a teacher from around Cleveland, MS who recently graduated from Ole Miss and actually did his student teaching at Lafayette. He was needing the extra cash since he was hired to be a head coach then the coach who supposed to retire didn't. Him and I ended up becoming good friends and we were both groomsmen in each other's wedding.
A big question we had was why we're both schools in Lafayette County great compared to the surrounding counties. Obviously having a major college was a factor, but there ended up being much more than that.
Unlike Panola county which without knowing the background you'd think having 2 school districts would be overkill, Lafayette County doesn't have the educational system scars from integration. North Delta drew a lot of the people you'd probably consider "preppy" but a private HS wasn't an option in Lafayette County. Marshall Academy was another private school that drew a lot of kids away from the school district they would be attending.
Depending on when your kids were at SPHS, they might have still had the unofficial "white prom" at the Memphis Zoo. This was occurring at least into the early-2000s.
There are major legal hurdles in addition to cultural and societal resistance to even our minor proposed changes. At the end of the day, only the easiest, barely more than superficial changes were implemented.
One WTF statistic from MS public schools: Mississippi has more school districts than California. By itself that is a lot of bureaucratic pork that does little to improve the quality of public education, and is financially inefficient.
We focused on the major LOCs heading to/from Memphis, obviously I-55 and what's now I-22 were areas of deep study for us since growth would likely occur on those corridors (and they have). Lafayette County was grouped in a well since it was wedged between I-55 and US 78.
We presented our findings via Telecon and my recommended COAs for efficacy improvement (1 very ambitious, 1 moderate, and 1 minor) were all met with a lot of skepticism from the Mississippi people. I understood that for the strongest COA, and maybe even the moderate COA, but the amount of pushback on all three was surprising. The Jackson team's COAs were met with even stronger resistance. The coast guys got a warm reception for their COAs.
Our clients invite the Jackson team and my team to send people to MS to see why those COAs were overly ambitious and that there were factors we were not considering that needed to be seen in person to be fully understood.
So I go to MS for 8 weeks and get paired with a teacher from around Cleveland, MS who recently graduated from Ole Miss and actually did his student teaching at Lafayette. He was needing the extra cash since he was hired to be a head coach then the coach who supposed to retire didn't. Him and I ended up becoming good friends and we were both groomsmen in each other's wedding.
A big question we had was why we're both schools in Lafayette County great compared to the surrounding counties. Obviously having a major college was a factor, but there ended up being much more than that.
Unlike Panola county which without knowing the background you'd think having 2 school districts would be overkill, Lafayette County doesn't have the educational system scars from integration. North Delta drew a lot of the people you'd probably consider "preppy" but a private HS wasn't an option in Lafayette County. Marshall Academy was another private school that drew a lot of kids away from the school district they would be attending.
Depending on when your kids were at SPHS, they might have still had the unofficial "white prom" at the Memphis Zoo. This was occurring at least into the early-2000s.
There are major legal hurdles in addition to cultural and societal resistance to even our minor proposed changes. At the end of the day, only the easiest, barely more than superficial changes were implemented.
One WTF statistic from MS public schools: Mississippi has more school districts than California. By itself that is a lot of bureaucratic pork that does little to improve the quality of public education, and is financially inefficient.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:48 pm to Murph4HOF
That’s pretty interesting to me. Been in education 35 years so I appreciate the information.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:52 pm to Murph4HOF
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Murph4HOF
Why did you make it about race? He was talking about preppy kids vs. country kids. He's right.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:51 pm to Icoachfb
I really respect the client from that project. When he originally assumed his position he thought he could make positive changes but after a few years he realized he needed help.
As good as those federal desegregation orders were, the result today means very basic changes to school districts still under those orders have to get approval from the Department of Justice. The justification they require is unreal.
TBH, as counter intuitive as it sounds, until those federal desegregation orders expire, the school districts are basically frozen in 1970. That isn't beneficial when looking addy a school district in 2019 eyes.
As good as those federal desegregation orders were, the result today means very basic changes to school districts still under those orders have to get approval from the Department of Justice. The justification they require is unreal.
TBH, as counter intuitive as it sounds, until those federal desegregation orders expire, the school districts are basically frozen in 1970. That isn't beneficial when looking addy a school district in 2019 eyes.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:53 pm to Drebin
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Why did you make it about race? He was talking about preppy kids vs. country kids. He's right.
School districts aren't "gerrymandered" by preppiness.
And if that was the case, the preppy school district wouldn't include all the county's housing projects.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:02 pm to rpg37
Good post and true. Pearl has had some talent come through over the years too.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:04 pm to anc
I imagine Oxford are the dogs in this game.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:07 pm to Ted2010
MPSA GOAT
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:20 pm to Sun God
15-0 Oxford leads middle 1st quarter. Chargers are destroying Starkville.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:21 pm to Sun God
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MPSA
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:23 pm to PsychTiger
quote:Starkville lost their first two games and have been on roll with 10 or so in a row. Oxford stomping South Panola though makes Oxford legit.
I imagine Oxford are the dogs in this game.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:31 pm to Diamondawg
Start of 2nd quarter. 15-0 Oxford with the ball 1st & 10 on own 27.
ETA: Oxford converts 4th and 1 from own 36. Ballsy.
ETA: Oxford converts 4th and 1 from own 36. Ballsy.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:32 pm to Diamondawg
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Oxford stomping South Panola though makes Oxford legit.
This game may already be over. Oxford's defense is maybe state best. Starkville's first play of the game was a snap over the QB and end zone fumble recovery. Just unreal. First meeting, it was 21-0 Starkville.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:37 pm to rpg37
quote:Kind of how our South Panola game played out. Lots of mistakes put us in the hole and couldn't make up for it. Probably gave up easy 13 or so but only lost by 4.
Starkville's first play of the game was a snap over the QB and end zone fumble recovery.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:41 pm to Diamondawg
18-0 Oxford with 9:04 left in first half. Tannehill connects on 47-yard FG.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:48 pm to rpg37
quote:Mayor's kid or related?
Tannehill connects on 47-yard FG.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:49 pm to Diamondawg
Mayor's kid.
Starkville strikes for a 27-yard TD pass. 18-7 Oxford.
Starkville strikes for a 27-yard TD pass. 18-7 Oxford.
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