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re: Let's talk SEC expansion - 16 teams

Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:35 am to
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Because you're a stupid arse that likes psycho stalkers?

We will Cock block this hard as frick.

ETA: I see you're an LSU fan. Y'all are dick riding Clemson balls deep so that explains your man crush on them.



The conversation should only include Charter Programs.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:36 am to
If we are going to expand then lets go whole hog. Never mind going to 16 teams.

Lets go to 131 teams. The entirety of the FBS and we add North Dakota State.

You play 1 rival home and away each season and 5 other teams home and away. In a mere 26 years you'll get to play every team in the country.

It makes as much sense as adding 2 more teams.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6303 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:36 am to
16 team conferences will be the kill shot to college football - while the CFP will just continue to slowly choke the life out of it.

best thing for CFB would be restarting the Big 8 with its original members plus Arkansas, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor.

Texas goes independent. Texas A&M remains in the SEC.

SEC-W = ALA, AUB, LSU, MSU, OM, TxAM
SEC-E = UF, UGA, UK, USC, UT, VU

B8-North = CU, ISU, KU, KSU, MO, NU
B8-South = UA, BU, OU, OSU, TCU, TT

B10 simply trades Nebraska for West Virginia to remain at 14 schools.

P12 replaces Colorado with BYU.

the ACC can continue into morphing into the Northeast Atlantic Conference with its current 'membership'

Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:40 am to
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16 team conferences will be the kill shot to college football - while the CFP will just continue to slowly choke the life out of it.

best thing for CFB would be restarting the Big 8 with its original members plus Arkansas, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor.

Texas goes independent. Texas A&M remains in the SEC.

SEC-W = ALA, AUB, LSU, MSU, OM, TxAM
SEC-E = UF, UGA, UK, USC, UT, VU

B8-North = CU, ISU, KU, KSU, MO, NU
B8-South = UA, BU, OU, OSU, TCU, TT

B10 simply trades Nebraska for West Virginia to remain at 14 schools.

P12 replaces Colorado with BYU.

the ACC can continue into morphing into the Northeast Atlantic Conference with its current 'membership'


I like it. I like it a lot.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:23 am to
Y'all were talking about wanting to leave the SEC bc of your weird obsession with supposed Bama bias.

Your charter membership is revoked.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:26 am to
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Let's talk contraction. Go back to the original 10 teams.


Honestly, I like this idea. Shrink the power conferences. Maybe add one more power conference with the leftovers. Expand the playoffs.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13083 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:36 am to
The ONLY reason to expend if there is one, is to add territory with TV sets.

1. Do NOT add any team in a state where the SEC already has a team. Texas, Clemson, F$U add zero to SEC coffer$.

2. Find teams in large (populous) states where we can make more money which is the sole purpose of expansion. A team in North Carolina and a team in Virginia would be best, IMO. States like Oklahoma and West Virginia are too small and would not bring enough additional revenue to cover the additional split of existing SEC revenue.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:51 am to
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Let's talk contraction. Go back to the original 10 teams

Yeah, let’s do that .... you ignorant fricking hayseed.

Right when everyone knows the key to survival is growth ... you wanna cut.

What do you do for a living? Lemme guess. Crack hooer, amirite? You blow peen for crack? Because even a shoe shine boy knows the three phases of everything in this universe ..... Growth, Maintenance and Decline.

When you stop growing (doesn’t matter what it is) you maintain. When you fail to maintain you decline. When you decline you die.

Don’t be such an obvious assclown as to make that, what you believe is some kind of elitist, statement again.

Nobody gives a frick about going back to an outdated business model that existed before your juvenile arse was born. Anybody that upvoted your dumbass for that statement is a fellow assclown of yours.

frick, I hate ignorant assclowns.

frick.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54676 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:54 am to
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Let's talk SEC expansion - 16 teams


OK

quote:

Big 12:

3 options in Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa State (pick 2 of the 3)

Oklahoma - fits the SEC academic and sports profile, not sure the cultures would mesh
Oklahoma State - SEC is better than #2 in OK, so NO
West Virginia - small population state and lower academics, so NO
Texas - no way in hell, they are a conference killer with their cancer
Kansas - #1 in KS, elite MBB, and AAU academics but not sure of culture mix
Iowa State - #2 in Iowa, AAU academics, and solid cool fans. Would piss of Iowa and the B1G
KSU - #2 in KS, no way
Texas Tech - NO, we already have #2 in TX and don't need #3
TCU - NO, small private school has limited fans
Baylor - NO, (Will Smith HELL NO!)

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ACC:


No options available. Not that getting a UNC + UVA would not be a feather in the SEC's cap, it is not going to happen because ESPN will not want FOX to raid the ACC for properties. Viewed in a financial way, the B1G would be the corporate raider and the SEC would be the white knight but fallout out destruction of the ACC keeps both at bay.



Of the G5's Cincinnati may be the best option as they are a massive school with strong academics and above average athletics. The problem is crossing the Ohio Ocean and them actually being Yankee's. The main reason for support is if the SEC had a team in Ohio it would break the B1G monopoly there for OH recruits. It would also piss off Bucknuts with a real P5 in their own back yard to compete with.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:54 am to
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bullshite, unless you are a school president or directly receive money from TV and bowl contracts, which I doubt you do. It's already hard as hell to navigate your way thorugh this league, then make the CCG, then win 2 more games in the playoff. Adding 2 more extremely difficult games against a blue blood only makes that harder. I mean that is basic common sense.


Fans are tired of watching their team play Austin Peay, Liberty, etc. Even the games against Vanderbilt, Arkansas, and in most years Kentucky are somewhat subdued and lacking the fun factor that exists on a football Saturday against a great opponent.

Everyone prefers watching higher quality games- Not just the TV executives but the fans as well.

Give me Athens when Notre Dame comes to town next fall over when Murray State comes any day. I think most everyone agrees with that.

The reason the SEC has produced more Champs, more NFL draft picks, etc. for the last decade is because its a tougher league. What kid wants to go play in the BIG 12 for Oklahoma when you only play one huge conference game each year (Texas), and its not ever even played on campus?

Right now, there are only about 6 SEC programs capable of winning the SEC... and therefore making a playoff. So you essentially come in each and every year with a 16.6% chance of making the playoff over the long-run...... If you add Oklahoma, Texas, or Clemson to get to 16, you add two more capable programs. So your chances of making the playoff might go down to 12.5%.

I'll trade that for much better games coming to Athens in a heartbeat. Bottom line is if you have a good coach and good players, you'll still win the SEC and therefore make the playoff. Adding 2 more quality teams isn't going to change things that much.... it's already tough. But it will boost the overall quality and excitement exponentially.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 11:56 am
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:58 am to
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Carolina_Girl

Shhh
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:03 pm to
Genetically impossible.
Posted by goodgrin
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2003
5899 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:06 pm to
I liked it at 12 teams. 16 is ridiculous. With the "traditional" rivalries, teams may take 20 years to play at a cross division conference away stadium.
Posted by UltimateSuperGenius
Member since Jul 2018
167 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:07 pm to
I think we end up with 4 16-team conferences.

I see Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, WVU and VaTech going to the SEC.

Texas will join the Big 10.

Oklahoma would prefer top join the Big 10, but their academics will keep that from happening.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:09 pm to
Expansion stupid
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58063 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:11 pm to
ESPN is not going to authorize the SEC poaching from the ACC when they are launching an ACC Network this fall.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64611 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Let's talk SEC expansion - 16 teams

Let's talk about going back down to 10 teams. I'd love to see 10, 10 team conferences, and each conference playing a round-robin conference schedule. All the conference champs go to a 16-team playoff. Then, of the remaining 32 schools not in one of those conferences, one will get a bid to the playoffs. That leaves 5 spots left for at-large teams.

16 team conferences is stupid unless you don't play any OOC games which would suck as a fan. But having a 16 team conference and only playing half the teams in that conference every year defeats the purpose of having conferences to begin with. SOS disparities within conferences would be a joke in that scenario.

This 16 team conference stuff was talked about years ago, but I don't see it happening. College football will just expand the playoffs before they'd ever do that.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1329 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:20 pm to
I think it will create a super-league with promotion/relegation in and out of the conferences.
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5700 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:46 pm to
How about no?

10 or 12 would be better.
Posted by 85AustinAg
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2016
298 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:52 pm to
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The ONLY reason to expend if there is one, is to add territory with TV sets. 1. Do NOT add any team in a state where the SEC already has a team. Texas, Clemson, F$U add zero to SEC coffer$. 2. Find teams in large (populous) states where we can make more money which is the sole purpose of expansion. A team in North Carolina and a team in Virginia would be best, IMO. States like Oklahoma and West Virginia are too small and would not bring enough additional revenue to cover the additional split of existing SEC revenue.

A freakin' LSU fan is the only one on here making any sense... You only expand if it helps your conference and makes you more money.
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