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re: Jonathan Taylor's "victim" recants her story (not AFD)

Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:10 am to
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:10 am to
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Roses of Crimson
Jesus.

How bad do you want suck Saban off?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79124 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:12 am to
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How bad do you want suck Saban off?



It's a little creepy. Like a bad infomercial or a pyramid scheme.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:12 am to
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By law I do not think it matters what she says at this point. They will have to push it through the system.



No. If the only witness to the crime admits she lied about the whole thing and is now in jail for lying to police, that's a really tough case to prosecute.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:13 am to
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The best thing about Saban is, he is who he is and doesnt give a %$#& what you think.


Yet your post implies he may have kicked out a player who did nothing wrong because of possible negative backlash
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:15 am to
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Yet your post implies he may have kicked out a player who did nothing wrong because of possible negative backlash


Wow. Now you idiots are ready to roast Saban because of this news? Jesus. Talk about a Catch-22.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:16 am to
If this is true, I actually feel sorry for the situation that Saban is in right now.

Do you say "sorry, we already let you go even though you were falsely accused"?

Or do you keep the whole thing in the spotlight by admitting him back?

This is a lose/lose situation.
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:17 am to
Ok, give me my tin foil hat.

We've gone 5 pages and nobody has accused Auburn of putting a new Operation Red Dog into action?

They hired this chick to make the false accusation! I just know it!

Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:18 am to
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Yet your post implies he may have kicked out a player who did nothing wrong because of possible negative backlash


This is exactly why setting a consistent standard is so difficult. You can't reasonably cut everyone loose if they've only been accused, but if you limit it to convicted criminals the bar is set a little too high and you'll have all sorts of "retractions"
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:18 am to
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Wow. Now you idiots are ready to roast Saban because of this news? Jesus. Talk about a Catch-22.



Uh no, just laughing at your hypocrisy. You are patting Saban on the back for not caring what people think, yet a few sentences before that you basically imply Saban was aware that there was more to the story but kicked him out anyway because of perceived negative backlash.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25701 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:19 am to
We'll lsu had the same problem last year when Harlem mills was arrested for hitting a girl then story changed that another girl hit her and blamed him so who knows it's his vs her word. Question is if he is innocent is he back on the team?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:20 am to
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If this is true, I actually feel sorry for the situation that Saban is in right now. Do you say "sorry, we already let you go even though you were falsely accused"? Or do you keep the whole thing in the spotlight by admitting him back? This is a lose/lose situation.

Not really - the dude is gone. I'm sure part of the strict rules/guidelines he was under were shot to the curb once he put a hole in the wall and the cops were called to the scene. Taylor should have just walked away and never let the situation escalate to the point it did.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:20 am to
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Reminds me of Courtney Upshaw slapping around some girl and the girl's own dad blaming her


Your dad needs to slap you, but remove the helmet first.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:21 am to
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They hired this chick to make the false accusation! I just know it!



Probably planted weed on Jones and spiked Geno's sweet tea too!

Those bastads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:21 am to
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RT1941


Fair enough.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:21 am to
No he won't be back on the team. He isn't worth the drama. Never has been.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79124 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:21 am to
I wonder if Saban has an alternate basis for dismissing him. Obviously it can't be entirely alternate, but something along the lines of "we had established with JT that putting himself in any position that even resembled the appearance of domestic violence would be dealt with with harshly. Once this story broke he did not address it with us in the manner we expected him to. I hope that for his sake the charges do turn out to be without basis, but nonetheless we feel it is best that we part ways with him and we hope he continues to develop as an athlete and a person, etc. etc."
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:22 am to
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It's domestic violence. A simple accusation is all they really need for the most part.
DV accusation is not a mandatory arrest or pro-arrest in Alabama. Even then, those states that have mandatory arrest policies, there still needs to be probable cause for the arrest (although studies show they fail to find probable cause as the conviction rates are really low).
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:22 am to
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If this is true, I actually feel sorry for the situation that Saban is in right now.

Do you say "sorry, we already let you go even though you were falsely accused"?

Or do you keep the whole thing in the spotlight by admitting him back?

This is a lose/lose situation.


It really is an awful situation all around. I did not want Taylor in the first place, but once the decision was made to accept him, he became part of the team. Either his past is forgiven or it is not. So now it looks like the right thing to do for JT is to bring him back (if the girl truly is lying), but the best thing for the program is to wash its hands clean of him and move on.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:25 am to
Tweet wouldn't load. What was the photo of?
Posted by Dore5674
Nashville
Member since May 2012
1105 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:25 am to
Exactly dude wasn't worth all this in the first place. Bama/Saban have no one to blame for putting themselves in this situation other than the man in the mirror.
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