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re: Jimbo Fisher to Texas A&M?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:36 pm to CharlotteSooner
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:36 pm to CharlotteSooner
I have to chuckle when big 12 posters feel the need to comment on anything related to A&M or Missouri on a SEC board. Fisher would be an interesting hire, and he would have the resources to compete. I know the last time we took an established coach from a mahor program, we were stuck with Fran (yes gumps, we are still bitter). I like the idea of getting someone with recruiting ties in the southeast because i don't think TX high schools produce the front seven or OLinemen needed to compete in the SEC. You recruit TX for WRs and DBs and undersized linemen that works only in the big 12.
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:38 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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So if facilities and recruiting are so great why does the State of Texas have so few NC's compared to the State of Florida? Tell me.
I brought this a few posts back and crickets. What’s the ratio since the 80’s 11 to 1? Can’t just say it was “once in a lifetime coaching”. No less than 2 coaches at each major Florida program have won a NC. 4 or 5 in Miami?
What about The State of Texas? can you touch that?
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:38 pm to cas4t
You are the only Power 5 program in Louisiana.
You should be top 5 every single year.
You should be top 5 every single year.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:38 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Because the two large in-state premier programs in the state of TX have similar culture problems. For all the talk on here about TAMU being a sleeping giant, I don't read people asking why Texas doesn't do better in those same threads. I mean.....they ARE the flagship program in the state of TX and they historically gobble up all of the top prospects in their state year after year. They should be the Bama of the BIG XII but they aren't. Why do you think that is?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:41 pm to texag7
that is entirely my point.
there is a lot of other shite that goes into recruiting and facilities will only get you so far. You have to keep up, of course.
I just don't see a coach like Fisher being swayed by shiny things. This entire discussion is based on one of the points Tuscaloosa made about A&M > FSU as a job, which is laughable. And that's not a knock on A&M. It's a great job. But FSU is a known commodity with multiple coaches with NCs.
there is a lot of other shite that goes into recruiting and facilities will only get you so far. You have to keep up, of course.
I just don't see a coach like Fisher being swayed by shiny things. This entire discussion is based on one of the points Tuscaloosa made about A&M > FSU as a job, which is laughable. And that's not a knock on A&M. It's a great job. But FSU is a known commodity with multiple coaches with NCs.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:42 pm to cas4t
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Tuscaloosa made about A&M > FSU as a job, which is laughable.
Well he's not wrong.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:43 pm to CharlotteSooner
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like this BoarEd guy. He is pretty spunky for a fan of a school that has a Jeannie Craig dropout for a head coach.
That's awesome.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:44 pm to cas4t
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A&M > FSU as a job, which is laughable.
Totally laughable.
Doesn’t mean Fisher wouldn’t make the jump, but it wouldn’t be because A&M has a bigger potential to win Championships. The exact opposite is the case.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:45 pm to BoarEd
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Like hiring the last guy who was a raging alcoholic because you guys were trying to clean up your nerdly reputation. Go get the guy with "swagger". Lol. That "swagger" was the frickin booze.
That drunken swagger was good enough to beat the Pigs 6 straight years.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:47 pm to texag7
If A&M is such a better job, with better recruiting grounds, better facilities, and better alumni to pull strings, why is FSU so much more successful in the last couple of decades?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:47 pm to Mr. Elvert
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FSU would be making a big mistake but does seem like he could use a change of scenery
I doubt if FSU could compete with A&M for his salary.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:48 pm to Aggiehoss04
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I like the idea of getting someone with recruiting ties in the southeast because i don't think TX high schools produce the front seven or OLinemen needed to compete in the SEC.
Every lineman you've had drafted into the NFL since 2011 on offense and defense has been talent you recruited from your home state except for one player. Jermaine Eluemunor was a limey. Other than that, your trenches have been manned by Texans.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:49 pm to GurleyGirl
they could compete, unless A&M wanted to throw retarded money at Fisher. But you don't get rich by being wasteful.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:49 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Well just for starters, you claimed ATM isn't a downgrade from FSU,
And I listed all the reasons why.
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You cited facilities (which may be true and yet still irrelevant)
It becomes relevant pretty damn quickly when your program doesn’t have top facilities. So yeah, it’s very relevant. Being able to point to your program having the nicest facilities in the country (which A&M has), certainly doesn’t hurt. They’re absolutely nicer than FSU’s.
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fanbase size (not sure if true),
It’s true. TAMU has one of the largest student bodies and alumni bases in the country.
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money (irrelevant)
How exactly is money irrelevant? Ability to pay assistant coaches, recruiting budget, commitment to keeping and upgrading top notch facilities and acadmemic support for athletes... That was a silly statement.
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academics (irrelevant),
You think being able to walk into a recruit’s house and show his parents where the School ranks nationally, and how much money he’d make after football with a degree from there - compared to other schools in the conference - is irrelevant? What? Keep in mind we’re comparing the job to FSU - where the academics pale in comparison to the other schools in the conference. Not the case at TAMU.
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conference (which is no longer true).
Based on what? They have two good teams, and one of them - Miami - is a paper tiger that’s about to be exposed, having played close games all year against bad to average teams.
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which is the most important of all, was the culture.
Tell us more. I contend that if their culture was so bad, they wouldn’t be leading the conference in those other areas. They are committed to being successful. That’s the most important factor, and that’s a part of the culture. Whether they figure out how to do that consistently or not is yet to be seen.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:51 pm to GurleyGirl
Texas A&M is a nest on the ground. Yes it is a better job than FSU. Less pressure to win and fat paycheck.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:53 pm to cas4t
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But you don't get rich by being wasteful.
We're rich and we've been paying Kevin Sumlin 5m a year for the last few years
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
DALSU says it's a done deal.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:59 pm to FishFearMe
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Yes it is a better job than FSU. Less pressure to win and fat paycheck.
from that perspective it’s a valid point.
If they get him with a Nc pedigree can’t blame A&M but I think Sumlin has made progress. Better D, tougher culture. RBs look like SEC backs, team is playing hard and is very young. It Sumlin stays you can be pretty good in 18 and 19 also.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
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They are committed to being successful.
Homey they've been "committed to being successful" for the last 60 years. You SEC fans are just newb outsiders looking at surfacy things and wowing over the shiny objects they purchased trying to fit in with you, and you're proclaiming greatness lies beneath the facade. There's a reason we have the word "facade" in the english language.
fa·cade
f?'säd
-an outward appearance that is maintained to conceal a less pleasant or creditable reality.
Greatness has never been there. Hanging new lights, wall paper, flat screens, and furniture within your program doesn't create greatness. If your listed criteria were the formula for success, Oregon would have 5 natties by now.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:02 pm to CharlotteSooner
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they've been "committed to being successful" for the last 60 years.
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about. We were so behind the times facilities wise until like 2011-12
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