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re: Jimbo Fisher to Texas A&M?

Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:57 am to
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:57 am to
If you had a 40MM buyout at your job if you got fired, you's sleep in, have long lunches, leave early, and bang your secretary.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:57 am to
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Someone who can go into the state of Texas and recruit at an elite level will put themselves in national contention every year.

It's worked out great for Aggy thus far.

This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:59 am to
If I'm as established as Fisher, I'm looking at things like alumni interactions and how involved do I have to be with all the big boosters. Maybe he enjoys that sort of thing, but I think that would be a nightmare to deal with at most major universities in Texas.

I think the facilities arm race is a bit overblown too. It matters, but not as much as you'd like to think. Everyone has nice facilities, but it doesn't always equate to recruiting success.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50381 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Everyone has nice facilities, but it doesn't always equate to recruiting success.


Who has a top 10 facilities and doesn't recruit well?
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4341 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:01 pm to
I like this BoarEd guy. He is pretty spunky for a fan of a school that has a Jeannie Craig dropout for a head coach.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:02 pm to
that's kind of my point. The arms race can only get you so far. Everyone has nice facilities. Just because you have touch screens in the player's lounge doesn't mean you're going to beat out Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc for a top rated player.

That's what I meant by recruiting successes.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by PorkRoast
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2015
6047 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:02 pm to
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If you had a 40MM buyout at your job if you got fired, you's sleep in, have long lunches, leave early, and bang your secretary.


Not if the buyout has a "with cause" provision in it. Ask shark boy.
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:03 pm to
I guess this is built off of the relationship Jimbo had with Scott Woodward (A&M's current AD) back when they were both at LSU?

The situation at FSU could have changed drastically in 1 year but I can't see the A&M situation this year being any better than the LSU situation last year. I can't help but see the LSU situation as better, if for no other reason the built in recruiting advantage of being THE program in Louisiana vs. one of several (UT's resurgence, TCU in the top 10 now, plus OK, OK State having major perferences, etc.)

So he could be interested if FSU has suddenly turned sour in one year or he wanted to have nothing to do with Alleva, but for if neither of those are true I can't see why he'd want to risk his legacy on a rebuild at A&M...
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:06 pm to
It certainly makes a difference. Last year, he was under the impression FSU was going to be very good. He had his QB and they were a pre season top 4 team. Now they are tanking.

Fwiw I've cooled on Fisher as well. I can't believe how bad they've become. There is no excuse to be this bad just because your starting QB went down when you have recruited at their level. I think he's lost the locker room.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:07 pm to
Wonder how hard your admin had to work to keep all of Rumlins escapades under wraps down there?

Aggy has a long history of shooting themselves in the dick and hiring Fisher is just loading another round in the chamber.

Can't get out of your own way.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Who has a top 10 facilities and doesn't recruit well?


Arkansas
Posted by Atxgump
Austin
Member since Nov 2015
3982 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:09 pm to
If he brings winston with him, otherwise he sucks
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14984 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:11 pm to
Fayetteville should be able to recruit itself
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24274 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
Jimbo is CBS.


Can't Beat Saban
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Just because you have touch screens in the player's lounge doesn't mean you're going to beat out Bama, LSU OSU, Michigan, etc for a top rated player.


I mean your 2018 class currently is 70% 3 stars
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:21 pm to
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I mean your 2018 class currently is 70% 3 stars



you'll see a similar dip in recruiting once you fire your HC

has A&M outrecruited LSU since conference expansion? Honest question. I don't think so. And your facilities are abundantly nicer.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10968 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Please tell me which part of my post you’d like to disagree with. TIA.


Well just for starters, you claimed ATM isn't a downgrade from FSU, which is a laughable joke in and of itself.

You cited facilities (which may be true and yet still irrelevant) and conference (which is no longer true). You cited stadium size (true), fanbase size (not sure if true), money (irrelevant), and academics (irrelevant), all of which were present during Sumlin's tenure, yet no changes in performance from the BIG XII to the SEC, because all of those things are irrelevant.


But the one thing you didn't cite, which is the most important of all, was the culture. All of those things you cited above are mere lipstick on a pig. That's why we BIG XII posters here laugh at all of you every time we see the "TAMU is a sleeping giant" posts.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
I just looked and the 2 years after you upgraded facilities you finished outside of the top 10. 2015-#11 and 2016 #18.

LSU finished at 5 and 2. While essentially going bankrupt as a university and halting ongoing renovations.

That's my point. Nice stuff is only going to get you so far. I'm sure Fisher is aware of this. It's just not a driving factor for someone who already has nice shite.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:34 pm to
So if facilities and recruiting are so great why does the State of Texas have so few NC's compared to the State of Florida? Tell me.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:35 pm to
I think you just proved his point...
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