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re: Jimbo Fisher sits down with KSAT 12's Greg Simmons, addresses NIL drama

Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:48 am to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5527 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:48 am to
Incredible. 1 of 11 early enrollees has an NIL deal. The media has no clue what’s going on and just repeats what is on social media as fact. Just shows how stupid all this is.

Because NIL deals can be proven, this tells us that Saban was flat accusing A&M of paying all their signees against the rules.

After Jimbo responded Saban backtracked and said he didn’t say what A&M did was illegal - Saban is talking out of both sides of his mouth and looks like a clown.

But there is only 1 conclusion... Saban called Jimbo a cheater.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:49 am to
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Every school was busting their balls to do the exact same thing as A&M, they just can’t do it as well


Not every school. Some were going through coaching transitions, some were trying to shite can their HC after only one year on the job, some didn't even have NIL collectives assembled, some are still struggling to fund their NIL contracts with their current players. Not every school has been busy busting their balls to do the same thing aTm has been alleged to have done.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52517 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:50 am to
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After Jimbo responded Saban backtracked and said he didn’t say what A&M did was illegal - Saban is talking out of both sides of his mouth and looks like a clown.


There are ways to pay recruits that are "legal" but also an NCAA violation.

NCAA rules aren't the law.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22666 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Incredible. 1 of 11 early enrollees has an NIL deal. The media has no clue what’s going on and just repeats what is on social media as fact. Just shows how stupid all this is.

Because NIL deals can be proven, this tells us that Saban was flat accusing A&M of paying all their signees against the rules.

After Jimbo responded Saban backtracked and said he didn’t say what A&M did was illegal - Saban is talking out of both sides of his mouth and looks like a clown.

But there is only 1 conclusion... Saban called Jimbo a cheater.


All NIL deals have to be approved.

You only have 1 player on NIL most likely because all the other NIL deals were rejected as being pay to play payments, which Sankey has said is the majority of what they have been seeing.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:54 am to
The more he lies the worst it will be. Just come clean and admit it. If you don’t we will seek to destroy you and your football program and fans until the day we die
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:55 am to
Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to offer a prospect an NIL contract before they enroll at the program they commit to?

Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to negotiate an NIL contract with a prospect or the prospects agent, family member before they sign with a school?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22666 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:55 am to
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The conjecture Queen strikes again


We all have incomplete information, so I'm not sure what your point is here honestly.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:56 am to
There has never been a more clearer version of cheating than Aggies last class. It’s so fricking obvious it’s more frustrating that they keep doubling down
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:58 am to
he even mentioned slice bread
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5527 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:58 am to
Can you give me an example of what you mean by this?

quote:

There are ways to pay recruits that are "legal" but also an NCAA violation. NCAA rules aren't the law.


My point is…. All the “buying” and “paying” talk doesn’t have anything to do with NIL.

It’s just rumors and it’s basically just the same “bag men” accusation.

You do realize that there are actual violations of NIL that other schools are committing. Using NIL as enticements, publicly stating $50k to OL to sign, etc.

Those are real NIL issues.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:00 pm to
So Fisher is now on record as saying that only 1 player has a NIL deal. Awesome. So now, if there is another of those players who is later found to have received a deal, he has lied, and that will be reason for an ncaa investigation.

Guilty people often talk way too much.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

So Fisher is now on record as saying that only 1 player has a NIL deal. Awesome. So now, if there is another of those players who is later found to have received a deal, he has lied, and that will be reason for an ncaa investigation.

Guilty people often talk way too much.


Why couldn't aTm offer an NIL contract to a player that's already enrolled?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5527 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to offer a prospect an NIL contract before they enroll at the program they commit to? Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to negotiate an NIL contract with a prospect or the prospects agent, family member before they sign with a school?


I don’t know. But haven’t we already heard that Tennessee and Texas are doing this?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:03 pm to
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We all have incomplete information, so I'm not sure what your point is here honestly.

Well, that never stopped you from declaring (without information) that Aggy is cheating.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12538 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:04 pm to
Has Jimbo ever made himself look good in an interview?

The fact this was a rhetorical question says a lot about him.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

quote:
Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to offer a prospect an NIL contract before they enroll at the program they commit to? Is it permissible for an NIL collective representative to negotiate an NIL contract with a prospect or the prospects agent, family member before they sign with a school?
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I don’t know. But haven’t we already heard that Tennessee and Texas are doing this?
That's why I asked the question.

Can NIL collectives become involved in negotiations with prospect or a prospects agent, family member before that prospect enrolls at a school?

Does that become a bidding war amongst schools and is the prospect or his agent looking for the best offer before the recruit every signs an LOI? The NCAA needs to lay this stuff out clearly and should've done it a year ago.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted by AggieArchitect04
Texas
Member since Sep 2011
2198 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:06 pm to
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You only have 1 player on NIL most likely because all the other NIL deals were rejected as being pay to play payments

This theory doesn’t pan out either. If the kids went there only for the money, were made promises for pay, and then those promises didn’t materialize, don’t you think we’d see a lot of kids jumping ship?
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:06 pm to
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1. NIL is allowed to continue the way A&M did it last year, everyone starts doing it, and schools like A&M find themselves back in the middle again.

Or you realize that schools like Alabama and LSU with ~1/3 of the booster power and business intelligence that A&M has, and this programs fall into the middle.
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2. Schools like A&M who used NIL to recruit will get heavily penalized and it will prevent schools from doing it A&M finds themselves back in the middle again...eventually.

Alabama is doing it too, they are just behind and can’t keep up.
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Even with A&M taking advantages that other people did not take advantage of

Everyone and their mother has an NIL collective and yes they’ve all been using it to recruit
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3738 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:12 pm to
The lady doth protest too much
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 12:14 pm to
The pissing contest is funny to me. For years the Aggies mantra has been “muhh oil money and every one else is the poors”. All of a sudden Nick basically agrees with them about their cash load and $Jimbo$ goes into a total meltdown about it.
He should have just played it off and kept on being Aggy. But this is typical $Jimbo$, being thin skinned and butt hurt. Hell, he would challenge fans in the stands at FSU to “come on down” and fistfight. Too funny!
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