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It has been interesting seeing how loosely the term “NFL player”
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:24 pm
has been thrown around recently.
Serious question:
If you randomly met someone and started chatting,and he tells you how he recently went undrafted in the NFL draft, attended an NFL training camp and got cut before the season started….would you tell your friends, “I just met an NFL player”?
Serious question:
If you randomly met someone and started chatting,and he tells you how he recently went undrafted in the NFL draft, attended an NFL training camp and got cut before the season started….would you tell your friends, “I just met an NFL player”?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:25 pm to Lgrnwd
If someone told you that they were a professional football player/nfl player and never played an actual game on Sunday everyone would laugh at him.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:27 pm to Lgrnwd
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If you randomly met someone and started chatting,and he tells you how he recently went undrafted in the NFL draft, attended an NFL training camp and got cut before the season started….would you tell your friends, “I just met an NFL player”?
I would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:30 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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I would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses
No shlt. I am referring to all of the random people and media talking about this subject constantly referring to these guys as “NFL players”.
Maybe the average Joe really does consider someone like that an “NFL player”. It was a serious question, I am genuinely curious, because me personally would have never referred to someone like that as an NFL player. Was wondering if I am in the minority.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:35 pm to Lgrnwd
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No shlt. I am referring to all of the random people and media talking about this subject constantly referring to these guys as “NFL players”
All of these discussions boil down to a legal discussion. Why are you questioning media and randos using a legal term when discussing a legal situation?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:38 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:40 pm to Lgrnwd
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Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.
“Former NFL players” is quickly being replaced with “class of 2022 recruits”.
I wonder why?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:42 pm to cattus
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If someone told you that they were a professional football player/nfl player and never played an actual game on Sunday everyone would laugh at him.
I guess when they are posting total NFL players from each school, we can now add the LSU guys who got cut without ever making an active roster or playing a game.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:46 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Actually, the new rules are not based on legal definitions.
They dance around general definitions in order to create differences that legally are not different.
The term "contract" used legally, has so many nuances, scope, coverage that using the word contract in the rule makes that rule ineffective and un-enforceable because of the vagueness of the term.
Using one, or several types of contract, every single returner that SEC is protecting could be deemed Ineligible.
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actual legal definitions
Actually, the new rules are not based on legal definitions.
They dance around general definitions in order to create differences that legally are not different.
The term "contract" used legally, has so many nuances, scope, coverage that using the word contract in the rule makes that rule ineffective and un-enforceable because of the vagueness of the term.
Using one, or several types of contract, every single returner that SEC is protecting could be deemed Ineligible.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:51 pm to Lgrnwd
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Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.
What terminology do you prefer the media to use when referring to these players discussing a legal question? What impartial term should they use to identify the player?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:52 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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What terminology do you prefer the media to use when referring to these players discussing a legal question? What impartial term should they use to identify the player?
Plaintiff.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:53 pm to PeleofAnalytics
If you went to an interview for google and they didn't hire you could you legally say you worked for google, lol?
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would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:54 pm to Lgrnwd
I don’t think even “legal terms” you were ever an NFL player if you never even made practice squad much less a 53 man roster
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:00 pm to lsupride87
If you sign a contract with a law firm contingent on passing the bar and you fail the exam, are you an attorney?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:03 pm to stopitnow1
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If you went to an interview for google and they didn't hire you could you legally say you worked for google, lol?
Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for his 20k signing bonus, He can say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:03 pm to Lgrnwd
Minicamp guys got a first interview, didn't get called back for a second.
Training camp guys got a second interview, didn't get the job.
Neither are NFL or ex-NFL players.
Training camp guys got a second interview, didn't get the job.
Neither are NFL or ex-NFL players.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:05 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for heis 20k signing bonus, He cans say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL
He was paid to try out. He didn't make the team, thus didn't get the contract.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:12 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for his 20k signing bonus, He can say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL
Lodging, food, and travel are forms of payment, bud. They may be tax free but they are forms of payment.
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