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It has been interesting seeing how loosely the term “NFL player”

Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:24 pm
has been thrown around recently.

Serious question:

If you randomly met someone and started chatting,and he tells you how he recently went undrafted in the NFL draft, attended an NFL training camp and got cut before the season started….would you tell your friends, “I just met an NFL player”?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:25 pm to
Probably
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:25 pm to
If someone told you that they were a professional football player/nfl player and never played an actual game on Sunday everyone would laugh at him.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

If you randomly met someone and started chatting,and he tells you how he recently went undrafted in the NFL draft, attended an NFL training camp and got cut before the season started….would you tell your friends, “I just met an NFL player”?


I would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:30 pm to
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I would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses


No shlt. I am referring to all of the random people and media talking about this subject constantly referring to these guys as “NFL players”.

Maybe the average Joe really does consider someone like that an “NFL player”. It was a serious question, I am genuinely curious, because me personally would have never referred to someone like that as an NFL player. Was wondering if I am in the minority.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:33 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:35 pm to
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No shlt. I am referring to all of the random people and media talking about this subject constantly referring to these guys as “NFL players”


All of these discussions boil down to a legal discussion. Why are you questioning media and randos using a legal term when discussing a legal situation?

Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:38 pm to
Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.


“Former NFL players” is quickly being replaced with “class of 2022 recruits”.

I wonder why?
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:42 pm to
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If someone told you that they were a professional football player/nfl player and never played an actual game on Sunday everyone would laugh at him.


I guess when they are posting total NFL players from each school, we can now add the LSU guys who got cut without ever making an active roster or playing a game.
Posted by stitchop
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:46 pm to
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actual legal definitions



Actually, the new rules are not based on legal definitions.

They dance around general definitions in order to create differences that legally are not different.

The term "contract" used legally, has so many nuances, scope, coverage that using the word contract in the rule makes that rule ineffective and un-enforceable because of the vagueness of the term.

Using one, or several types of contract, every single returner that SEC is protecting could be deemed Ineligible.



Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5611 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Because I am not talking about the legal situation here. I am talking about how people use certain language to push a certain narrative in the court of public opinion.


What terminology do you prefer the media to use when referring to these players discussing a legal question? What impartial term should they use to identify the player?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52866 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:52 pm to
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What terminology do you prefer the media to use when referring to these players discussing a legal question? What impartial term should they use to identify the player?


Plaintiff.

Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
2653 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:53 pm to
If you went to an interview for google and they didn't hire you could you legally say you worked for google, lol?

quote:

would think these rules are based on actual legal definitions, not the terminology some random person uses
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112779 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:54 pm to
I don’t think even “legal terms” you were ever an NFL player if you never even made practice squad much less a 53 man roster
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
16020 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:00 pm to
If you sign a contract with a law firm contingent on passing the bar and you fail the exam, are you an attorney?
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5611 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:03 pm to
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If you went to an interview for google and they didn't hire you could you legally say you worked for google, lol?


Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for his 20k signing bonus, He can say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22520 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:03 pm to
Minicamp guys got a first interview, didn't get called back for a second.

Training camp guys got a second interview, didn't get the job.

Neither are NFL or ex-NFL players.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22520 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:05 pm to
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Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for heis 20k signing bonus, He cans say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL


He was paid to try out. He didn't make the team, thus didn't get the contract.
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
2653 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:12 pm to
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Did i sign a contract and receive a paycheck from google? So when Dae'Quan Wright gets a W-2 from the Browns for his 20k signing bonus, He can say "what the frick... I never worked for you guys!" LOL


Lodging, food, and travel are forms of payment, bud. They may be tax free but they are forms of payment.
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