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re: Is Tua the most overrated QB since Stefan LeFors?

Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:19 am to
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:19 am to
Gotta think that part of the reasons those defenses are ranked so low is that they played Alabama and got torched. Obviously, Tua had a part in that. Take away Alabama, and what is the average defensive rank of the same teams?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:20 am to
Alabama has never had a good QB or RB - they just have the greatest offensive lines and wide receivers in college football history. Every single year.

It's pretty impressive IMHO.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19437 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:25 am to
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Is Tua the most overrated QB since Stefan LeFors? by vicemanquote:A Bama fan yesterday said Calvin Ridley wouldn't play for y'all this year. So let's go with the WR thing If only there was a stat that took into account everything about playing qb, from rushing yards and strength of the opponents defenses quote:College Football Total QBR - 2018 Season Leaders TOTAL QBR: Adjusted Total Quarterback Rating, which values the quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale adjusted for the strength of opposing defenses faced. RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR 1 Tua Tagovailoa, ALA 30.5 6.6 -1.2 0.0 35.9 114 98.0 97.8 20 Joe Burrow, LSU 16.2 2.5 -3.4 5.4 20.6 192 70.9 75.


This is one of those stat collections that can actually go both ways........ If allowed to play more than 2 or 3 quarters would be way ahead of Joe in passing yards and TD's and probably every other stat as well. The downside is that if Tua was allowed to play more than 2 or 3 quarters he would also see his completion rate drop and the possibility of an interception or fumble goes up.

That's really been Joe's bright spot to date. Not turning the ball over but twice.
Posted by Luke
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Member since Nov 2004
13412 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:30 am to
Op is stupid.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:46 am to
7 in a row with 8 coming soon.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:49 am to
If you were a girl I'd say this was your #metoo moment.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:50 am to
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Tua has 1,161 yards this year. Not bad.

But don't let that number fool you.

Of those 1,161 yards, 637 yards have come on WR YAC. That's right around 54.8% of his passing yards coming on WR YAC.

This leaves 45.2% of his yards coming from his passing ability. This is 102nd among FBS QBs. Not good.

Couple this with the fact that the average defense he's faced through 5 games is 94th according to ESPN's FPI defensive efficiency rankings.

Good WRs. Game manager at QB.

For those wondering: Joe Burrow has passed for 1,023 yards with 395 coming off of WR YAC. (38.6% from WR YAC)

Sorry that you have shitty receivers to go along with your average QB.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:07 am to
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I'd like to see how he responds to being touched.
Like, by an opposing defender.

Seriously.



say no more fammo

Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6479 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:11 am to
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We won't know til he starts against a defense with a pulse. If he looks average against them then he is very overrated by the Bama fans hype.


UGA, in the national title game, had a pretty decent defense

Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:14 am to
Not everyone can struggle with Arky man... I’m sure it’s tough being fagy and dominating the competition so often makes seasons boring I’m sure.... oh wait
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:15 am to
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6479 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:17 am to
You'll notice my response was to Rayburn. It's easy to make him look foolish. In fact, he does it all by himself.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12221 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:27 am to
Bama has 4 1st round caliber receivers.
Posted by NeckedGrandma
Member since Jul 2017
73 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:42 am to
Geez...so now we're penalizing Tua for his accuracy and hitting his receivers in stride?

What's next?
Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:44 am to
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The thing is you are so dumb you think it's a bad thing that tua is hitting all his receivers perfectly in stride, throwing them open so that the defender had no chance to make a play on the ball or make an immediate tackle and the receiver never has to break stride. It's pretty clear you either have not watched him play or know nothing about football, or both.


Ding, Ding, Ding !
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61090 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:49 am to
quote:

4 1st round caliber receivers


4? Bama will have 4 WRs go in the first round of the NFL draft? 4? that's pretty crazy.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17585 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:05 am to
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 10:39 am
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:14 am to
Tua will never be Blake Sims or Jacob Coker. So he will have a career as a manager at Speedway and not simply a cash register jockey.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9684 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:18 am to
Tua has ammassed his yardage playing two qtrs a game basically. Burrow has not come out of any game.

you want to count yards after catch as a negative against Tua but you want to count drops and throwaways from Burrow as a positive.

If you think Burrow is in the same stratosphere as Tua then you don't know football. Ohio State would have NEVER held the door open for Tua to leave.

Posted by DannyBateman
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
1459 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:20 am to
Bama by 31
L8U

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