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re: Is the SEC any good?

Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:28 pm to
Florida doesn’t count

Have you seen that we almost beat Georgia and Ohio State

We have the 2 best losses in the SEC
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Have you seen that we almost beat Georgia


Only 25 points away, so close
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:30 pm to
The refs saved you
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:31 pm to
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The refs saved you


Sorry you’re poor
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:33 pm to
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You wanna know when the SEC really sucked? 2010 and 2013.


Is pointing to Auburn national title game participation supposed to be some form of insult? Sure, go there. You really hit hard.

Look I’m just asking a question. There have been some absolute head scratcher bad performances by SEC teams this year against OOC teams. Some of us can be reasonable and look at a dozen of these strung together as potential red flags. Others can put their head in the sand and pretend they didn’t happen. You choose your own path, bud.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Sorry you’re poor


You're arguing with an Aggie fan.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:34 pm to
Where are they? I’ll make fun of those Aggies!
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25811 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Look I’m just asking a question. There have been some absolute head scratcher bad performances by SEC this year against OOC teams. Some of us can be reasonable and look at a dozen of these strung together as potential red flags. Others can put their head in the sand and pretend they didn’t happen. You choose your own path, bud.


For our particular OOC game you only looked at one side. We did hold a team average 466 yards a game to 250. We did hold a team averaging 35 points a game to 9
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Look I’m just asking a question. There have been some absolute head scratcher bad performances by SEC this year against OOC teams.


It's the NIL era. There are lots of headscratcher games. Maybe the SEC is not quite as dominant as some other years because talent has been diffused, but it's still the best league top to bottom.

The fact that multiple SEC teams limped through the last part of the season without a head coach, or with a dead duck like Stoops, didn't make it look better. Nevertheless, those teams were still better than the bottom half of the other P4 conferences.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:41 pm to
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I would say that could be attributed to the 41-0 beatdown UK took this weekend


Okay. Ignore that a team that beat two SEC foes this year and also took two Top 15 SEC teams down to the wire got their doors blown off by 41 points to a mid ACC opponent.

Ignoring the worst loss and keeping all others, the SEC would still have 3 ACC losses… two coming against teams that failed to get above .500 in ACC conference play. And in the nine total games remaining, the SEC would still be just a hair about +4 points/game against the perceived worst Power 4 league who is in danger of missing the Playoff all together.

I feel much better now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105645 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:43 pm to
I'm not really sure it is. But again, I'm not really sure how good other leagues are either.

The BXII is almost entirely insulated. Texas Tech and BYU played nobody out of conference.

The top teams in the B1G played a grant total of Ohio State vs Texas week 1 (and Michigan @ Oklahoma if you count them at the top of the league). Oregon played nobody, Indiana played nobody. So it's tough to evaluate them outside their league, really.

I don't think the SEC has a great team this year. I think we have 5-6 pretty good teams and a bunch of above average teams (and very few just bad teams) that are flawed and need to play their best game (which most of them have played at some point during the season) to beat Ohio State (and probably Indiana). I think Texas Tech might also be very good (specifically their defense), but I'm not sure because they just haven't played another elite team yet.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted by MNW
Starkville, MS
Member since Mar 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Some of us can be reasonable and look at a dozen of these strung together as potential red flags.


A dozen? All 16 teams in this league only lost 8 OOC games combined
Posted by Gman84
Member since Aug 2021
1067 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:46 pm to
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almost beat Georgia


If only it was a 3 quarter game!
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62356 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:47 pm to
we were playing against the refs!!!
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Some would say the SEC is down


Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:48 pm to
Most amazing takeaway from this was BK won an opener
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3619 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:52 pm to
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A dozen? All 16 teams in this league only lost 8 OOC games combined


So Ole Miss barely hanging on to beat Wazzu at home just gets ignored and counted as a great win?

Georgia putting up just 16 points to a team that gave up 34 to Boston College, 42 to Pittsburgh, and 48 to NC State is just fine and dandy? No reason look further.

Missouri didn’t pull away for good against Kansas until there was 4:14 left in the game. That’s a 5-7 Kansas. Missouri is a Top 25 SEC team.

Each of these on their own… along with all the losses… are not a big deal. But all of them put together is what is concerning IMO.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4575 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Is pointing to Auburn national title game participation supposed to be some form of insult? Sure, go there. You really hit hard.


An Auburn fan saying the league is weak when UGA plays Alabama for the title sort of fits the same pattern though, wouldn't you agree?

By the time you posted this quote above, I had already amended my post to which you responded, because I realized you'd think I was being serious. Even though I was joking, that's how it normally works on this board. The logic is self-serving.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 1:55 pm to
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How did Georgia only manage to score 16 points against Georgia Tech when 8 other Power 4 opponents were able to score more against them?


Game was never in doubt. UGA was able to maintain control without doing anything other than run the ball and stop Tech. There was no need to do anymore….Tech never presented any reason for UGA to do anything other than run the ball, punt, stop Tech and repeat.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Georgia putting up just 16 points to a team that gave up 34 to Boston College, 42 to Pittsburgh, and 48 to NC State is just fine and dandy? No reason look further.


To what end would UGA throw for 300 yards and score 40+ points when Tech was never close to being competitive in the game? What purpose would it serve to score a bunch when your opponent was beat from the opening whistle. UGA had the game won from the first minute. UGA held the ball almost 60% of the game and averaged nearly 4.5 yards per carry running the ball. There was never any need to do more than run the ball, take what Tech was giving up and letting the defense get some good work against a very good GT offense. Fans would love to have seen a 35 point blowout but the work that was done at game speed defensively against a good offense is far more beneficial to winning by more than one point. GT is for all intents and purposes a rent a win for UGA and they fulfilled their roll perfectly.
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