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re: Is Tennessee football still a blue blood?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:30 pm to LukeSidewalker
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:30 pm to LukeSidewalker
Where do you put Nebraska and Notre Dame?
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:01 pm to LukeSidewalker
When you've won 1 NC in 65 years you have to have something else to bolster that claim. Tn doesn't have anything else. They are in the next tier.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:03 pm to BHMKyle
We were talking about whether a team is still a blue-blood or not...
Notre Dame is an old blue-blood but since ND last NC, it has played in one NC game...
Since 1960
USC leads the series 28-27-3
USC leads the number of NC 7- 4
NC won by USCw 04, 03, 78, 74, 72, 67, 62
NC won by ND 88, 77, 73. 66
as you can see ND is fading.......
So according to that tier system posted, USCw should be tier 1, ND, at most, tier 2
Here is some information you can use
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Notre Dame is an old blue-blood but since ND last NC, it has played in one NC game...
Since 1960
USC leads the series 28-27-3
USC leads the number of NC 7- 4
NC won by USCw 04, 03, 78, 74, 72, 67, 62
NC won by ND 88, 77, 73. 66
as you can see ND is fading.......
So according to that tier system posted, USCw should be tier 1, ND, at most, tier 2
Here is some information you can use
LINK
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:07 pm to BHMKyle
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If they are still a blue blood program now (which they are) after how miserable the past 15 years have been for them, then of course they used to be.
No, it's no joke. They were never considered a blue blood
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:10 pm to TideFaninFl
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We were talking about whether a team is still a blue-blood or not...
Notre Dame is an old blue-blood but since ND last NC, it has played in one NC game...
Since 1960
USC leads the series 28-27-3
USC leads the number of NC 7- 4
NC won by USCw 04, 03, 78, 74, 72, 67, 62
NC won by ND 88, 77, 73. 66
as you can see ND is fading.......
So according to that tier system posted, USCw should be tier 1, ND, at most, tier 2
Here is some information you can use
They're still top 8 on almost any all-time ranking.
AP: #3
CFDW: #2
ESPN: #1 (tied with 5 others)
Winsipedia: #5
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:12 pm to BHMKyle
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So who are the 8? I guess this means you are including Penn State???
Alabama
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Southern Cal
Oklahoma
Michigan
Nebraska
Texas
That's the list. There are some good programs not on the list, but good doesn't make you a blue blood.
Dominance in a short time frame (Miami) doesn't get you there either.
You don't stop one because you have a couple bad decades (Nebraska). Although if the have another bad decade we're going to have to revisit it.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:21 pm to Korin
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They're the winningest program
Michigan has also been playing longer than most. They've played 56 more games than Bama, 43 more than OSU, 21 more than Texas.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:22 pm to Korin
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They're still top 8 on almost any all-time ranking.
AP: #3
CFDW: #2
ESPN: #1 (tied with 5 others)
Winsipedia: #5
There is no denying they were top tier team, but ND is living off its reputation more than anything they are doing on the field.
Look at the last 25 years (and no NC)
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This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:26 pm to Korin
The only SEC (maybe any program) that played for a 3-Peat 3 times 64-65-66 78-79-80 11-12-13
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:28 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Huh?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:28 pm to TideFaninFl
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There is no denying they were top tier team, but ND is living off its reputation more than anything they are doing on the field.
Look at the last 25 years (and no NC)
That's only 25 years though.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:13 pm to Korin
The only program that played for a 3-peat 3 different times....I know that's not something Florida fans would know anything about...........
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:37 pm to GenesChin
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They have 2 AP NCs total
They have one in '97 and before that it was '48 (AP)
...so AFTER this year it will be 1 in 70 years.
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Michigan may not have been good the past 20 years, but they cemented their blue blood status well before that. Same as Nebraska
Well,they're living off their first 50 years and for years the Big 10 was the big 2 with them and OSU...they've essentially been a non factor since the Big 10 expanded. I suppose they still get blue blood status but far from cemented IMO
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:00 pm to LukeSidewalker
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can A program be a blue blood forever even when they appear to be done with that particular sport?
It’s gotta stop at some point I would think.
This is a good question. I mean people still think of UCLA as a blue blood in basketball. ND in football. Nebraska in football?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:01 pm to volfan30
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My guess is we will finish up around 15-20th all time by the time they close up shop on the sport in a decade or so.
They haven't closed up shop on boxing...they are not going to close up shop in football for another 100-150 years.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:24 pm to Sunbeam
The high schools will wind up dropping football and probably soccer due to
rising insurance costs. Soccer can survive without high school but football
can’t in it’s current form, it’s just too expensive. When high school football goes,
college football is next. Perhaps the NFL with set up a minor league to feed
them players but the public support for minor league football probably will be lukewarm
at best.
rising insurance costs. Soccer can survive without high school but football
can’t in it’s current form, it’s just too expensive. When high school football goes,
college football is next. Perhaps the NFL with set up a minor league to feed
them players but the public support for minor league football probably will be lukewarm
at best.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:48 pm to LukeSidewalker
U don't lose 125 years with 9 years of bad.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:18 pm to TouchdownTony
What about those 125 years?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:00 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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The only program that played for a 3-peat 3 different times....
Except it's not true, but okay.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:12 pm to StopRobot
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Blue bloods are
Bama
Michigan
Ohio State
Texas
Notre Dame
USC
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Michigan, ND, and Nebraska are losing blue blood status themselves, but maybe at a little slower rate than Tennessee.
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