re: Is Tennessee football still a blue blood?

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There is no denying they were top tier team, but ND is living off its reputation more than anything they are doing on the field.

Look at the last 25 years (and no NC)

That's only 25 years though.

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Actually, ND's decline has been over 50+ years, with only about 7 really competitive years (1973, 1977, 1988, 1989, 1989, 1993, 2012).......

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Uk claims to be a blue blood in hoopy shoot and has won 1 nattie since ‘99 and just got bounced out of the tourney by a 9 seed that was way overrated, so yes, by that standard utk is the friggin greatest team in the history of the universe.

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Did you fail the FCAT in 3rd grade? Just to drive the point home, in just the last 3 years, Alabama has played for the National Title each year........ I know you do not want it to be true, but just like Hillary's loss on election night, both have happened

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And what you claimed still isn't true.

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Please STFU. You are insane if you think football is dead. It is still...by far...the most popular sport in the US. It isn't going anywhere.

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Less than 100 years ago, boxing and horse racing were the most popular sports in the country. Just saying

Alabama didn't play for a title during the 66 and 77 seasons.

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Alabama didn't play for a title during the 66 and 77 seasons.

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Only problem with your statement, Alabama was ranked #1 during the 1966 season

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and in 1977- Alabama was ranked 3rd going into the bowls, and #1 and #2 lost....

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so you are wrong on both counts..... either you are to young to remember, or you do not know how college football used to work before the BCS, or you do not follow college football that closely



edit to add- However you were trying to dispute this statement

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The only program that played for a 3-peat 3 different times....

and I showed you 5 times Alabama played for a 3-peat.....

1)Alabama was NC in 64 and 65 and was the only undefeated and untied team in 1966

2) Alabama won the NC in 78 and 79, and was #3 in 77 when #1 and #2 lost in bowls. ND, that was #5 jumped Alabama to become #1

3) Alabama won had one of the best teams talent wise in 2010, but no team chemistry, won the NC in 09, and 11

4) Alabama won the NC in 11 and 12, and lost on a fluke play at the end of the 13 season

5) Alabama won the NC in 15 and 17, and lost on an illegal play in the last second in 16...

and actually, Alabama was playing for the NC in 2014,, 2015, 2016, 2017, as Alabama made the playoffs all four years.....

Laughing at you.......

Korin is good people. He just likes to be obtuse for the fun of it.

Tennessee lost their status over the last 20 years. Alabama never wandered as far as UT has.

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GD you're F stupid....

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There is no reason to be upset.

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Alabama
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Southern Cal
Oklahoma
Michigan
Nebraska
Texas

That's the list. There are some good programs not on the list, but good doesn't make you a blue blood.

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Here is the problem... I agree those are the 8 best programs of all-time, though not in that order.

I developed a formula a few years ago that I've tweaked from time to time, but basically it weights National Championships, AP Poll Points, Wins, and Winning Percentage. Here is how it looks for the All-Time Rankings:

1. Alabama- .9761
2. Oklahoma- .8789
3. Notre Dame- .8718
4. Ohio St.- .8523
5. USC- .7862
6. Michigan- .7632
7. Nebraska- .7427
8. Texas- .7216
9. Penn St.- .6423
10. Tennessee- .6286
11. LSU- .6142
12. Miami- .5724
13. Auburn- .5615
14. Georgia- .5601
15. Florida- .5459
16. Florida St.- .5309

Yes, there is a significant gap between those Top 8 and then #9. However, there is nearly just as big of a gap between #4 and #5.

The issue with limiting "blue blood" status to just those Top 8 is that college football turned on its head about 30 years ago.... mainly due to scholarship limitations and population shifts. The population explosion in the state of Florida has led to three new "modern day powerhouses" emerging.... and some of the old school blue bloods have struggled for so long, its a bit difficult to give them that status but withold it from others.

That same formula for just the past 30 seasons yields these results:

1. Alabama- .9233
2. Florida St.- .8748
3. Ohio St.- .8243
4. Florida- .7932
5. Miami- .7253
6. Nebraska- .6780
7. Oklahoma- .6635
8. USC- .6470
9. Michigan- .6420
10. LSU- .6076
11. Tennessee- .5652
12. Auburn- .5561
13. Texas- .5528
14. Georgia- .5505
15. Penn St.- .5413
16. Oregon- .5105
17. Clemson- .5031
18. Notre Dame- .5009

Thirty Years is no small time period. It's difficult to not call a program like Florida State a blue blood and still call Notre Dame one.... FSU has won 3 National Titles to Notre Dame's zero over the past three decades.

At what point do you draw the line?

Using this formula, over the past 30 years....

*Florida State comes out ahead of so-called Blue Bloods Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame (7 out of the 8)

*Florida comes out ahead of so called Blue Bloods Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame (6 out of the 8).

*Miami comes out ahead of so called Blue Bloods Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame (6 out of the 8).

*LSU comes out ahead of so called Blue Bloods Texas and Notre Dame (2 out of the 8).

*Tennessee comes out ahead of so called Blue Bloods Texas and Notre Dame (2 out of the 8).

*Auburn comes out ahead of so called Blue Bloods Texas and Notre Dame (2 out of the 8).

*Georgia comes out ahead of so called Blue Blood Notre Dame (1 out of the 8) and has a near identical score as Texas.

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I believe there has to be a balance of honoring tradition that was built on championships many years ago (like Notre Dame and Texas) but also acknowledges the very real powerhouse status over a period of 30+ years for programs like Florida State, Florida, Miami, etc.

I think a strong argument can be made for 8 Blue Bloods... as many have advocated. I also think there is a strong argument for just four (Bama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Ohio State). I also think there is a very strong argument for 16.

There are 16 programs that are most always the Top 16 whether you go back 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, etc. The further you go back, the higher Notre Dame appears. The closer to 20, 30, or 40 years you go back, the higher Florida State, Florida, and Miami appear.

But pretty much no matter the time period, those same 16 programs are almost always 1-16. That's why I think there is a very strong argument that there are 16 Modern Day Blue Bloods.

At some point this will have to be accepted. Florida State isn't going away... and I'm not sure Notre Dame, Nebraska, and even Michigan will ever be what they once were. At some point you have to balance the old and the new and that brings you 16 clear cut solid programs who are at the top of College Football.