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re: Is Mike Anderson in trouble?

Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:24 am to
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Is Mike Anderson in trouble?


No.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:17 am to
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Arkansas and Anderson seemed like the perfect fit. What happened Arky fans? Did he get lazy?


He's just never been much of a recruiter. That system is entertaining, but it only really wins when the talent is considerably better than the opponents. It's not the type of system where undermanned folks can scheme their way to wins against better players. The big problem I see is that MA has not been able to teach defense and get his players to play that ferocious defense that Nolan's teams did. There were times when Nolan's teams could spring an upset against superior talent just by being ferocious on defense. However, with hand checking being called more closely and the rules favoring offense at every turn, I don't see this form of basketball being effective anymore. As one of MA's biggest supporters, I have been forced to admit that he's just not getting it done and I don't see any changes in sight. Today's game is all about landing top talent, and it's not happening. Gotta make a change and then make a big splash of a hire which is a very tall order. However, that change won't happen until at least the end of the 2016-2017 season. Regardless of the finish this year, he's going to get next year.
Posted by Chase Daniel
Member since Sep 2014
560 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:37 am to
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The 40 minutes of hell we saw in the 90s will never be a thing anymore sadly because of the way the game is called.


I agree completely with this. When he was at Mizzou we were a monster home team and got into a lot of foul trouble and lost a lot of games we shouldn't have on the road. The problem in college basketball is the crowds heavily influence the way the game is called and his system does not work with players in foul trouble.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
7842 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:49 am to
I love Anderson, but he needs to leave. I don't care if he lost Portis and Qualls. Other teams lose players to the NBA and don't take this much of a step back. He recruited the players that got in trouble. He can't recruit for shite. I don't care what people will say about the incoming jucos. Jucos always need a year to adjust. He is too loyal to those damn assistants. He needs to send all of mpacking.

I'm just ready for some fresh blood. A coach that can actually call plays, recruits well, and stresses fundamentals, i.e. free throw shooting, screens, etc.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:49 am to
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Wanna trade Anderson's?

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No

I second that
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:59 am to
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I love Anderson, but he needs to leave. I don't care if he lost Portis and Qualls. Other teams lose players to the NBA and don't take this much of a step back. He recruited the players that got in trouble. He can't recruit for shite. I don't care what people will say about the incoming jucos. Jucos always need a year to adjust. He is too loyal to those damn assistants. He needs to send all of mpacking.


Well we will see how fast the players come in and adjust because he isn't getting fired this year.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:21 am to
That is Anderson. A lackadaisical recruiter that runs a gimmicky system. It can be really fun when the other team can't figure it out. When Mizzou hung a hundred on Memphis in the NCAA in 2009 that was the most fun bball game I ever watched. But pretty much errbody got him figured out at this point
Posted by MissouriBengal
Cape Girardeau, Misosuri
Member since Sep 2011
99 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:28 am to
Better not give him another year, if you want to have a chance with Michael Porter to stay home!
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:26 pm to
it seemed like a slam dunk hire at the time

if that guy can't wake up the echoes of Arky BBall who can?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:04 pm to
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Better not give him another year, if you want to have a chance with Michael Porter to stay home!


I'd guess that ship has already sailed.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:12 pm to
I never mistook Mike for Nolan.

He had one solid season at Missouri because three of his best players were either related to him or the son of a close personal friend.

He's never been a great recruiter and he doubles that down by not being able to hire any assistants that can recruit.

Such a waste when the in-state talent over the next four years starting next year, is the best it's ever been. He's already whiffed on Monk.

Inexcusable.

He'll have a Portis or two gifted wrapped for him and dropped in his lap that will allow him to linger. Worst case scenario for hog fans.


Potential to go down as the worst hiring decision since Jack Crowe.
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
1206 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Potential to go down as the worst hiring decision since Jack Crowe.




He's the first coach at AR to win at least 18 games in their first three seasons. With the exception of this year, he's made steady progress.

2011–12 Arkansas 18–14 6–10
2012–13 Arkansas 19–13 10–8
2013–14 Arkansas 22–12 10–8 NIT 2nd Round
2014–15 Arkansas 27–9 13–5 NCAA Round of 32
2015–16 Arkansas 12–14 5–8

He's not on the hot seat. Need I remind you of the Pelphrey years?

2007–08 John Pelphrey 23–12 9–7 NCAA Second Round
2008–09 John Pelphrey 14–16 2–14 N/A
2009–10 John Pelphrey 14–18 7–9 N/A
2010–11 John Pelphrey 18–13 7–9 N/A


Again, he's not on the hot seat. Next year will solidify whether or not AR starts looking around, though I seriously doubt he gets let go next year. His contract expires in March 2020 currently though the buyout is only $1 mil.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:23 pm to
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2013–14 Arkansas 22–12 10–8 NIT 2nd Round


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2014–15 Arkansas 27–9 13–5 NCAA Round of 32


Two years out of five where MA managed to win 20 games. The two years where he had Bobby Portis on the team, a Parade All-American from Little Rock that would have committed to Arkansas no matter who the coach was, who is doing well in the pros as a rookie or so I'm told.

Without Portis falling into MA's lap, his 3rd and 4th year would have looked just like the other three and probably closer to this year.

Unlike football, Arkansas is at an advantage to most other SEC teams in terms of everything that's relevant; fan support, infrastructure, tradition, history, etc.

Relative to those advantages versus what he has produced, he has completely sucked his first five years. Why some Razorback fans can't see the obvious is beyond me.

Not saying he can't wake up and turn it around with the unusual quantity of stud in-state recruits he has yet to whiff on over these next three years.

Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:28 pm to
I'm reading this thread and while I agree that Mike is not getting it done, I disagree on his style not working as a whole. There are other teams who have done similar things or ran at the same pace Arkansas has. The press is aabout forcing a certain pace of play and potentially turning people over. Unc and Louisville are two teams who play similar to Arkansas and both have won big and won recently. It's just Mike not recruiting or coaching well. He doesn't have to win every Arkansas born recruit but seemingly getting beat out for everyone really hurts. I know a lot of Arkansas fans didn't/don't like him but BJ Young was good his first year here before he mailed it in to play pro ball but he wasn't recruited by Mike at Mizzou. He fell into his lap here and he was one of the very few bright spots his first year on campus.


I do know I have a wall of text too. Typing on the phone is a pain lol
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2764 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:38 pm to
not every player wants to run their balls off for an entire game and not every current player is suited for it. His conference record after 5 years is almost identical to what it was at MIZ (.538) vs ARK (.537). The mans system is set up to win at home most of the time and get beat on the road most of the time. What you don't expect is him to be 5-8 in a bad SEC at year 5.

MA is Good enough to not get fired, interesting enough of a style to watch, & frustrating enough to curse. That's Mike Anderson basketball. Way better than what we at Mizzou have had in the past 5 years, but not enough of a loss to cry over. His system won't win you anything big, it just can't any more. Too many elite athletes play for other teams and not enough want to play that style.

What I feel for Arky is not anger or bitterness, but empathy. Also he's signed through 2020 & I don't see a chance Arky eats all that $.
Posted by TNG8r
TN
Member since Sep 2014
1317 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:39 pm to
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He's in more trouble than Kim Anderson.


But not as much as TN program is...
Posted by MissouriBengal
Cape Girardeau, Misosuri
Member since Sep 2011
99 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:59 pm to
Not exactly. May have a chance if they hire the guy from University of Washington. The reason his brother is going there is him, so maybe bring him to Mizzou you have a chance.

It's just sad that Missouri has produced some of the top talent in the nation, and none of them even look at Mizzou. Here are just a few I can think of:
David Lee- Florida
Bradley Beal- Florida
Tyler Hansbrough- UNC
Ben Hansbrough- MS St./ND
Otto Porter- Georgetown
Jason Tatum- Duke
Michael Porter-unknown, but won't be Mizzou.

That's a huge sign that things are wrong with that program.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19109 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:10 pm to
If mike can't put butts in the seats in the stands,then he's gone.Lack of interest in the program isn't what tithe school is looking for.

Mikes a great guy,but when the fans quit giving a damn and quit coming to the games,then he's gone...


Hopefully he can get get it done,but if not,I hope he doesn't become a jerk like nolan did....
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:41 pm to
If Mizzou ever got a coach who could recruit well in St Louis we'd be in very good shape. For whatever reason we have had a hell of a time recruiting St Louis for many years. It's gotten a lot better in football, but not in hoops.

St. Louis produces elite talent virtually every year and as you stated Mizzou gets almost none of those guys. It's unnacceptable. KA won't be the guy to do it either. He may win eventually if he's goven long enough, but he's not going to make waves on the recruiting trail.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:44 pm to
He's in trouble for sure but he'll get 1 more year.
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