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re: Is LSU the dirtest athletic program in the SEC
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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No. I’m saying the act of embezzlement doesn’t qualify as a gift or employment. You said in a previous post that this “Has nothing to do with embezzling funds.” Bruh, it has EVERYTHING to do with embezzling funds.
I worded that poorly and corrected it.
The taking of the money has ZERO to do with the NCAA.
The giving it to a players father has 100% to do with the NCAA.
I will say it clearly once more. PER COURT DOCS, he used the money to pay James Alexander, the father of the LSU player, 180K
He plead guilty to it.
Are you saying the court docs and his guilty plea are false?
Per the NCAA, Become directly or indirectly involved in making arrangements for relatives or guardian to receive money of any kind.
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But even if you’re right, there’s also no dates given so we don’t even know if Vadal was still at LSU or if it is outside of the statute of limitations or what.
Yes we do...
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You’re trying to connect multiple dots that have not been connected because you hope and want LSU to receive NCAA penalties for the benefit of your school.
Nope.
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You’re hardly an impartial observer and while I’m not either at least I’m actually looking at the facts and not projecting and making assumptions.
NOPE!
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:34 am to Jjdoc
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Are you saying the court docs and his guilty plea are false?
We're just going around in circles at this point. Once again, I don't think this type of "payment" qualifies as an NCAA violation because it was made as part of a theft. James Alexander was a conduit for the commission of a crime not the recipient of impermissible benefits based on Vadal being an LSU player.
If you honestly believe the NCAA is going to throw the book at LSU over that I don't know what to tell you.
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Yes we do...
Okay, please link the dates of the payments as I have not seen them.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:40 am to John Milner
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Insofar as it being against ncaa rules to pay a player or his parents, what does it matter where he got the money?
Because it's doubtful the NCAA has any guidance on how this could be applied for something besides payment to entice a player to commit/stay at a school.
I mean, the NCAA didn't have a rule prohibiting family members and coaches from acting as agents and enriching themselves based on their direct or indirect representation of a student-athlete until 2012. It's typically called the Cecil Newton rule but said to come from the Andre Smith situation.
The real question is whether the NCAA will hold LSU accountable for the ostensible criminal activities of two private parties.
This is what it comes down to in the end:
Does John Paul Funes using James Alexander as a conduit for embezzlement and money laundering count as a NCAA violation?
I doubt the NCAA has an answer for that even now after having this information for months: remember LSU immediately turned over the information they received from Our Lady of the Lakes audit on John Paul Funes.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:41 am to joshua2571
Before clicking I knew it was going to be Yahoo 
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:42 am to joshua2571
Without a doubt. Pieces of shite
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
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If you honestly believe the NCAA is going to throw the book at LSU over that I don't know what to tell you.
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if it was UGA the NCAA woulda thrown us threw the bus
We get hammered by those pricks and of course our AD is too much of a weenie to ever put up a fight
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:51 am to BoerneAg
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How poor is LSU that they can’t just outright have their boosters pay players?
Again Texas A&M is talking about money. How about you clean up your own house before you start spurting off about other schools?
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The U.S. Education Department has opened investigations into foreign funding at Georgetown University and Texas A&M University as part of a broader push to monitor international money flowing to American colleges.
Both universities are being ordered to disclose years of financial records amid concerns they have not fully reported their foreign gifts and contracts to the federal government, according to letters sent to the schools Thursday and obtained by The Associated Press.
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Zachor Legal Institute is a U.S.-based advocacy group dedicated to combatting the spread of anti-Semitism. Zachor made requests under the TPIA for information about the funding or donations made to Texas A&M by the government of Qatar and agencies and subdivisions of the government of Qatar. Qatar controversially has aligned itself with Islamic terrorists and extremists which has placed it at odds with the United States, Israel and other U.S. allies in the Middle East.
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In October 2018, Qatar filed suit to prevent disclosure of its funding information. Judicial Watch contends that neither the Qatari government nor any of its agencies are protected by Texas Public Information Act exceptions and that federal law “expressly makes the requested information public.”
From reading a few articles, it looks like instead of following the Texas Public Information Act, Texas A&M informed Qatar to get them to attempt to legally intervene in the release of Texas A&M's donations information from Qatar.
How shady and underhanded.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:54 am to joshua2571
Should just fast forward to the end. 2 year post season ban, 20 schollys.
Unfortunately for LSU this will be a slow burn and will affect recruiting in the meantime.
LSU AD has already inadvertently admitted there has been a NOI by the NCAA. A NOA will be announced by football season.
Unfortunately for LSU this will be a slow burn and will affect recruiting in the meantime.
LSU AD has already inadvertently admitted there has been a NOI by the NCAA. A NOA will be announced by football season.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:55 am to Jjdoc
The funniest part are the swampers on Tiger rant that have discussed suing Yahoo for continuing to talk about lsu
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:58 am to secuniversity
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LSU AD has already inadvertently admitted there has been a NOI by the NCAA.
Link please. I haven't seen this and would like to read it.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:05 am to joshua2571
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joshua2571
Suck a dick you little mongoloid.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:11 am to joshua2571
Lack of Institutional Control is the appropriate sanction for LSU at this point. They'll have a bowl ban and lose scholarships (But keep Coach O since I don't think he had anything to do with it). They'll fire Will Wade and vacate their season, as well as receive a post-season ban.
The hammer is coming. If the LSU fan base wasn't a bunch of cucks, I would feel bad. But with you guys fully supporting your blatantly cheating coach, it's tough to feel bad for you.
The hammer is coming. If the LSU fan base wasn't a bunch of cucks, I would feel bad. But with you guys fully supporting your blatantly cheating coach, it's tough to feel bad for you.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:14 am to ForeverGator
But, but, it can’t be an NCAA violation of the money for the payments was stolen!
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:16 am to BoerneAg
I’d say LSU stole Scott Woodward from Aggy, but we actually had to pay 50k
Hahahahahahaha broke fricks with an AD handed down by Ole Miss
Hahahahahahaha broke fricks with an AD handed down by Ole Miss
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:17 am to Draconian Sanctions
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We're just going around in circles at this point.
No, I'm just not emotionally connected like you. Therefore I see what the court docs say and have no reason to read into nor take away from it.
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I don't think this type of "payment" qualifies as an NCAA violation because it was made as part of a theft.
LMAO! So if you steal money, it's ok to give it to a player's daddy?
Come on. I will post it once more for you:
Become directly or indirectly involved in making arrangements for a prospect/student athelete or their relatives or guardian to receive money or financial aid of any kind.
The arrangement was via embezzling. He is most assuredly a relative. It was and is 100% MONEY.
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James Alexander was a conduit for the commission of a crime not the recipient of impermissible benefits based on Vadal being an LSU player.
James has no access to a Booster at LSU except via the son, Vadal.
The rule is in place for your very thought process. If it's ruled no problem, It's open season for all boosters.
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sent approximately $180,000 of that money to the father of Vadal Alexander, the former LSU offensive guard who played for the Tigers from 2012-2015 and was a student-athlete at the time of the payments.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:19 am to Jjdoc
Fire Alleva.
Maybe we’ll get Woodward.
But I hear it’s impossible.
Maybe we’ll get Woodward.
But I hear it’s impossible.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:20 am to joshua2571
At least when they cheat they actually get the player unlike State
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:22 am to Poker Dough
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At least when they cheat they actually get the player unlike State
Can't even cheat right!
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:22 am to Jjdoc
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Jjdoc
Watch out, friend. The LSU lawyers are about to come in here and tell you that you're wrong.
Then they'll bring up irrelevant statutes and case law because they think this is case in court, even though it's not (as well as Will Wade's incident). The NCAA is the prosecutor, judge, and jury in violations. It's pretty clear LSU has violated multiple major NCAA violations over the last few years.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:23 am to ForeverGator
Who will be the next Florida alum charged with murder?
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