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re: Is Kiffin a poor or lazy recruiter?

Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:19 am to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70266 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:19 am to
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Kiffin is not poor. He's a soft, coddled, rich daddy's boy


He's a perfect fit for ole miss.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25657 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:35 am to
Head coaches aren't getting paid millions a year to look on internet recruiting sites to go after recruits. They send position coaches to recruiting areas for which they are assigned and the head coach makes the final evaluations.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:01 pm to
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He did but there are a lot of Ole Miss fans that want to act like his “poor recruiting” is why we sucked under Luke. Freeze’s recruiting was far from poor
Luke didnt actually let y'all bottom out, though. That's what Chaggie did to us. At least Luke kept y'all competitive.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11657 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Head coaches aren't getting paid millions a year to look on internet recruiting sites to go after recruits. They send position coaches to recruiting areas for which they are assigned and the head coach makes the final evaluations.


I'm aware of what the optimal setup is, but coaches do care about recruiting rankings. It's something they can point to when insecure or trying to build hype and Hugh loved them. This isn't speculation.
Posted by Vandy420
Member since Feb 2022
16 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:14 pm to
eh he got Jaxson Dart, Jaylon Robinson, Ulysses Bentley, and Zach Evans, among others. So it seems he recruits skill positions particularly on offense well enough. But it does seem to be lacking on the defensive side of the ball, I think you could would say he's behind bama, uga, lsu, tamu, uk, tenn, florida as far as recruiting front 7 guys? And maybe even Arkansas.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:20 pm to
Our d line is as deep as it has been in a decade. Lb depth is a question. We have some dudes on the back end. If LB gets figured out this defense could be above average. Look the ceiling on this team is probably 9 wins. But we will be very competitive.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Take the best available that you know can play and work the portal for the others


Perfectly sums up his strategy.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5426 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84129 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:50 pm to
You need key position players for what he does. He will snag them up and adjust. A guy like him can do more with less and take advantage of the opportunity cost to use elsewhere.

I don’t know how he recruits but I assume if he has a lock on a player it’s pretty tight. He seems like a guy to analyze another and have them buy in.

Must be nice.
Posted by memphisRebel
Memphis, TN
Member since Jan 2013
409 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:01 pm to
“ He seems to rely on the transfer portal more than most.”

I mean, why not? You’re getting players that have playing time at the college level as opposed to a high school kid who may or may not make it at this level.
We have so many portal players coming in this year that it will be interesting to see if they can gel and play together in the first season. It’s a live experiment to test the strengths and weaknesses of portal recruiting.
Posted by memphisRebel
Memphis, TN
Member since Jan 2013
409 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:06 pm to
“ We don't agree on much, but this is hammer meets the nail's head.

“Kiffin has ZERO loyalty to anyone but Kiffin. He works hard at conning his way to the next undeserved oppotunity. That is about it.”

You really should stop with this, It’s just embarrassing. He whipped your arse, it’s over.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84129 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Kiffin has ZERO loyalty to anyone but Kiffin. He works hard at conning his way to the next undeserved oppotunity. That is about it.”


He’s not Mullen bad. Is he a sleeze, ya, but you would be too.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10591 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Yeah, it’s not like everyone was bitching and moaning about us having top 10 classes less than a decade ago


How did that work out for ya long term?

And for the record, I will eat crow on Kiffin at Ole Miss. I really thought he would roll out one of the worst defenses in Div 1 football along with a pass happy offense (Leach 2.0). I was wrong. You guys kicked our arse all over the field last year.

I also think he seems to have the right approach in Oxford. Do what you can HS recruiting wise for a few years, go heavy on building the program with known transfers, and with some success, garner attention from more talented high school recruits. It will be interesting to see what he can with Dart. And Zach Evans is a beast. I really wanted him in BR.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17486 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Kiffin has ZERO loyalty to anyone but Kiffin. He works hard at conning his way to the next undeserved oppotunity. That is about it.


Maybe next year right??? Maybe next year. Always next year tenner.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
17988 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:22 pm to
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Kiffin has ZERO loyalty to anyone but Kiffin. He works hard at conning his way to the next undeserved oppotunity


If you pay him 7 million a year he will be loyal. He got out of Knoxville as fast as he could and the Volunteer fanbase will never get over it. And I think that’s just great.

Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46023 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:22 pm to
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I know Ole Miss has just 10 commits, but those in the pipeline aren’t going to help much.


I don't think Kiffin cheats any longer. It's nearly impossible to land top classes without cheating.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23618 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:33 pm to
I think he is doing a fantastic job at Ole Miss. I really do. He has energized the fanbase, has talented roster, decent coaches, and utilizes the portal well.

He gets social media cred with recruits.

What more could OM ask for really? Ohh, he is winning as well overall.


I love pittman at Arkansas, as well. I would like for Pittman to learn to utilize social media better overall like Muss/Kiff.

I hope we always beat OM, but dang if they arent putting a fun product on the field
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
4672 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:12 pm to
He went into Alabama and stole Q Judkins. Sunterine Perkins who bama wants bigly is coming to Ole Miss.
I’d say he’s doing fine.
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
1160 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:19 pm to
Ole Miss is going to become transporter king.
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