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re: Is it better for an undefeated UGA to play LSU or Bama in the SECCG?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:02 pm to tween the hedges
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:02 pm to tween the hedges
Bama is going to beat them by 4 TD's. LSU isn't a good team.
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:04 pm to tween the hedges
How is this even a question? Get your mind out of the Richt era. If you want to be a consistent national contender, you always want to play to beat the best, not play to slide by while beating lesser opponents. Also, go undefeated and beat an undefeated Bama and you get good consideration for a 1 seed and geographical convenience in your first CFP game.
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:16 pm to randomways
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How is this even a question? Get your mind out of the Richt era. If you want to be a consistent national contender, you always want to play to beat the best, not play to slide by while beating lesser opponents. Also, go undefeated and beat an undefeated Bama and you get good consideration for a 1 seed and geographical convenience in your first CFP game.
I generally agree with this, but I would say that with the CFP structure, there is a good chance this strategy works poorly for UGA... Obviously, you *want* to beat Bama... but in the event that we lost a close 2012 SECCG style game, where does that place the Dawgs in the playoff race... even if we could feasibly remain in the top 4, there is a good chance we'd be in the 4 slot and immediately rematching them? That feels weird and highly unlikely... unless there are enough 2 loss conference champions, there is next to no shot we are kept in, so it becomes a play in game just for the CFP.
In that scenario, it's *probably* preferable to play a team like LSU (assuming a win over the fighting O's) with the idea that maybe both UGA and Bama make it into the CFP, and not having faced each other, could easily be placed head to head in the first round if the CFP selection committee so chooses.
Unless UGA just really "handled" Bama, which I just don't see happening, there's next to no chance they get left out even if they lose in the SECCG... just a bit of a double standard given their continued standard of play throughout Saban's tenure. As a result, for 2017, it's likely in UGA's best interest to not face them in the SECCG... with that said, I see next to no chance that is the case, even if we assume that UGA is definitely going to be in Atlanta.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:28 pm to fibonaccisquared
Good point. Even if we played LSU, we’d probably still play Bama in the first round.
Might as well get it over with in the SECCG
Might as well get it over with in the SECCG
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:54 pm to madmaxvol
Hey pardner, the rented mule is mine!
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:58 pm to tween the hedges
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Might as well get it over with in the SECCG
Eff that, at least if we face them in round 1 of the CFP we can say we won both an SECCG and played in the CFP... I'm not conceding a loss in the SECCG necessarily, but to SoG's point... you don't want to play Bama any earlier than you have to if it's hypothetical scenario time... If you're asking what's likely, then it will be a showdown in Atlanta almost definitely. Just 2 different questions.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:22 pm to Jake_LaMotta
No you won't. Whoever wins that title game goes to the playoff. We will never have two teams from the same conference in a 4-team playoff.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:27 pm to Rescue22
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We will never have two teams from the same conference in a 4-team playoff.
I could see the B1G getting two teams in. The media is already pushing for it now.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:29 pm to Rescue22
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No you won't. Whoever wins that title game goes to the playoff. We will never have two teams from the same conference in a 4-team playoff.
This is bullshite considering LSU and Bama played in the 2-team playoff less than a decade ago. So two teams from the same conference is not a crazy scenario.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:44 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
In a different type of championship presentation. Before they picked two teams more-so based on hype rather than record. Now they claim they choose based on various things such as strength of schedule and record. How the polls are structured now, I can guarantee that this will never be a realizable outcome. Mark my words.
Anyways, the only way this hypothetical could be realizable is if LSU beats Alabama, which is not happening.
Anyways, the only way this hypothetical could be realizable is if LSU beats Alabama, which is not happening.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:45 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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I could see the B1G getting two teams in. The media is already pushing for it now.
Highly unlikely... tOSU/PSU winner will represent that division most likely, so you'll either have 2 one loss teams there, and PSU doesn't have enough quality games on the schedule to really point to, *or* you'll have undefeated PSU coming out of that and a 2 loss tOSU that is totally out. Wisconsin's SoS is so bad that the only chance they have is winning the conference, and even still, somewhat unlikely. They play zero ranked teams between now and the last week of the season at present...
Pac12 is screwed from a SoS standpoint and the bad losses for Washington and Washington St... USC getting throttled by ND didn't help the perception either.
BigXII not in great shape, likely needs TCU to win out just to get a team in due to Oklahoma's loss and poor defense in games following their big win against tOSU... their conference championship game will likely hurt them also, since it would be unlikely for Ok St to sit at one loss and not have to play TCU in the championship game again... leading to either TCU victory and an extra loss for Ok St *or* the two teams split the game, and both have a loss (this is presuming wins for both teams going forward as well...)
ACC, Cuse put a massive dent in Clemson's odds were they to not go to the ACCCG, Miami still has Notre Dame ahead as well as VT I believe, before they even get to the ACCCG. Will be interesting to see who emerges here, as I don't see this conference as clearly obvious. NCST, Miami, Clemson all with chances it would seem... none are flawless. No more than one team, and all of them are taking a bit of a hit with Louisville and FSU struggling this season from a quality win perspective.
Biggest wrinkle to getting 2 SEC schools in may actually be Notre Dame... due to their schedule, if they manage to make it through with one loss, it's entirely possible that were UGA to go 12-0 regular season, lose to 12-0 Bama, we might get left out for ND, even with the head to head win, simply due to their SoS and the general perception of the SEC East... Not a guarantee or anything, but certainly possible.
It's all interesting though... will just have to see how it plays out.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:58 pm to fibonaccisquared
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I generally agree with this, but I would say that with the CFP structure, there is a good chance this strategy works poorly for UGA... Obviously, you *want* to beat Bama... but in the event that we lost a close 2012 SECCG style game, where does that place the Dawgs in the playoff race... even if we could feasibly remain in the top 4, there is a good chance we'd be in the 4 slot and immediately rematching them? That feels weird and highly unlikely... unless there are enough 2 loss conference champions, there is next to no shot we are kept in, so it becomes a play in game just for the CFP.
In that scenario, it's *probably* preferable to play a team like LSU (assuming a win over the fighting O's) with the idea that maybe both UGA and Bama make it into the CFP, and not having faced each other, could easily be placed head to head in the first round if the CFP selection committee so chooses.
Unless UGA just really "handled" Bama, which I just don't see happening, there's next to no chance they get left out even if they lose in the SECCG... just a bit of a double standard given their continued standard of play throughout Saban's tenure. As a result, for 2017, it's likely in UGA's best interest to not face them in the SECCG... with that said, I see next to no chance that is the case, even if we assume that UGA is definitely going to be in Atlanta.
Fair enough. OTOH, if y'all do drop a game this season, a win over an undefeated Bama in the SECCG looks a helluva lot better to the selection committee than over a minimum-2 loss LSU.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:00 pm to LSU Patrick
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Georgia is always good for a choke job. I wouldn't be completely shocked if they lost 2 of the next 3.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:14 pm to tween the hedges
Georgia won't even be there.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:58 pm to tween the hedges
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:01 pm to tween the hedges
If Bama and UGA win out and Bama OR UGA loses by 7 or less, there's a shot that both could still make it in.
If Bama loses to LSU (or anyone) and goes on to play UGA and UGA loses, it's over and I think we all sit home.
If Bama loses to LSU (or anyone) and goes on to play UGA and UGA loses, it's over and I think we all sit home.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:35 pm to DoubleDown
You think a one loss SEC champ Bama would be excluded?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:42 pm to DoubleDown
Both UGa and BAMA will not both get with a loss coming from head to head in the SECCG. No one outside the two fan bases will want to see a rematch. There are other scenarios but most are extremely unlikely.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:43 pm to tween the hedges
Wow, what happens if UF beats UGA Saturday ? That would mean UGA may not even make it to the SECCG.
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