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re: Is Avery on the hot seat if Bama misses the tournament?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:52 am to Frac the world
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:52 am to Frac the world
agree
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:13 am to BowlJackson
Avery has a better record in each of his first three seasons than Pearl's first three at Auburn. Avery has not had a losing season. Pearl had back-to-back losing seasons in his first two years at Auburn.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:27 am to LSU Patrick
he will get 5 years the same as Grant
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:34 am to Wallacewade04
If he misses the tournament this year, he gets one more.
Grant had Bill Battle as AD, who had to be coerced into firing him by fan revolt.
We have an AD with a pulse now.
Grant had Bill Battle as AD, who had to be coerced into firing him by fan revolt.
We have an AD with a pulse now.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:42 am to GatorsGators
No, because I think Bama makes the NCAA Tournament... even with a loss Saturday.
Here is how Bama's resume stacks up:
QUADRANT 1: 5-6
QUADRANT 2: 6-6
QUADRANT 3: 4-1
QUADRANT 4: 2-0
The only really bad loss was against Minnesota which is a Quadrant 3 loss. Bama has 5 Quadrant 1 wins and 11 combined Quadrant 1 & 2 wins.... I think that will compare favorably to a lot of other bubble teams.
Things to watch out for:
Several of Bama's opponents are on the cusp of falling into lower Quadrants.
*Memphis sits at #96 in the RPI. If Memphis slides below #100 RPI, that win drops from a Q2 win to a Q3 win.
*UCF sits at #69 in the RPI. If UFC (who's lost 2 straight games) were to slide below #75, this loss drops from a Q2 loss to a Q3 loss and that actually could severely hurt the resume. It would be a second ugly loss.
*Mississippi State sits at #68 in the RPI. If State were to fall below #75 in the RPI, then Bama goes from having a Q1 loss at State and a Q2 win at home vs. State to a Q2 loss and a Q3 win.
*Georgia sits at #70 in the RPI. If we fall below #75 in th RPI, then Bama goes from having a Q1 loss to Georgia to a Q3 loss
If all of these teams were to fall down a Quadrant, Bama could be in trouble.... especially UCF because that would give Bama a second Q2 loss.
But I think as it stands right now, Bama could lose Saturday, lose another game in St. Louis, and they'll still be playing in Dayton. I just think with wins over Auburn, Tennessee, Rhode Island, and Oklahoma, its going to be difficult for any other Bubble Team's resume to top them.
Here is how Bama's resume stacks up:
QUADRANT 1: 5-6
QUADRANT 2: 6-6
QUADRANT 3: 4-1
QUADRANT 4: 2-0
The only really bad loss was against Minnesota which is a Quadrant 3 loss. Bama has 5 Quadrant 1 wins and 11 combined Quadrant 1 & 2 wins.... I think that will compare favorably to a lot of other bubble teams.
Things to watch out for:
Several of Bama's opponents are on the cusp of falling into lower Quadrants.
*Memphis sits at #96 in the RPI. If Memphis slides below #100 RPI, that win drops from a Q2 win to a Q3 win.
*UCF sits at #69 in the RPI. If UFC (who's lost 2 straight games) were to slide below #75, this loss drops from a Q2 loss to a Q3 loss and that actually could severely hurt the resume. It would be a second ugly loss.
*Mississippi State sits at #68 in the RPI. If State were to fall below #75 in the RPI, then Bama goes from having a Q1 loss at State and a Q2 win at home vs. State to a Q2 loss and a Q3 win.
*Georgia sits at #70 in the RPI. If we fall below #75 in th RPI, then Bama goes from having a Q1 loss to Georgia to a Q3 loss
If all of these teams were to fall down a Quadrant, Bama could be in trouble.... especially UCF because that would give Bama a second Q2 loss.
But I think as it stands right now, Bama could lose Saturday, lose another game in St. Louis, and they'll still be playing in Dayton. I just think with wins over Auburn, Tennessee, Rhode Island, and Oklahoma, its going to be difficult for any other Bubble Team's resume to top them.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:55 am to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
That is some good information there but it will be interesting to first see how much this committee truly emphasizes the Quad system. They have contradicted themselves in the past.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:13 pm to BHMKyle
We're not making the tournament at 17-15 (8-11) with 6 straight losses and a RPI around 60-65, Quad wins or not.
And we shouldn't.
And we shouldn't.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:AMEN
We're not making the tournament at 17-15 (8-11) with 6 straight losses and a RPI around 60-65, Quad wins or not.
And we shouldn't.
This team isn't playing tournament level ball right now. Until they get some heart and drive into them and play like they want to win then they don't deserve to be an NCAA team, IMO.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We're not making the tournament at 17-15 (8-11) with 6 straight losses and a RPI around 60-65, Quad wins or not.
I think there are only like 4 teams in the history of the tournament that have gained an at large bid with more than 2 games under .500 in conference.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We're not making the tournament at 17-15 (8-11) with 6 straight losses and a RPI around 60-65, Quad wins or not.
And we shouldn't.
I understand Bama fans hedging their expectations, but most any bubble team can point to their resume and see flaws. Bama's is no different than the other teams who sit right on the bubble. If you take Lunardi's updated Bracketology, of the last 8 teams in the field along with the first 4 teams out, here are how they stack up in various categories:
Quadrant 1 Wins:
6- Texas
5- Alabama
5- Baylor
4- USC
3- Providence
3- Washington
3- St. Bonaventure
3- Arizona State
2- Louisville
2- UCLA
2- Syracuse
1- Nebraska
Bad Losses (Quadrant 3 & 4):
0- Texas
0- Louisville
0- Baylor
1- Alabama
1- Arizona State
1- UCLA
1- Nebraska
1- Washington
1- USC
2- St. Bonavenutre
3- Providence
HORRIBLE Losses (Quadrant 4 only)
0- All of the above teams except for the ones below
1- USC
1- St. Bonaventure
1- Providence
Bama's resume is probably the best of the above with the exception of Texas IMO.... and that's why Lunardi still has Bama in the field and not even playing in Dayton.
I do believe a loss Saturday may knock Bama a tier below and force them to play in Dayton.... but I don't think an SEC Tournament loss will hurt. Unless you win your Conference Tourney, everyone has a Conference Tourney loss.
I think Bama will sweat it, but they are in.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:53 pm to GatorsGators
4 years was his leash. To be honest, if he can survive this year, he needs to change EVERYTHING about this program next year.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:54 pm to rockiee
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I think there are only like 4 teams in the history of the tournament that have gained an at large bid with more than 2 games under .500 in conference.
It actually happens quite often... not usually for SEC teams but it happens to teams in the stronger BBall conferences every year.
Here's the deal. The SEC is stronger than normal... everyone knows that. Finishing a game below .500 at 7-9 when the SEC is as strong as it is this year is not a resume buster.
Not only that, but Bama has wins over BOTH the two strongest SEC teams: Auburn and Tennessee.
Bama played a very strong OOC schedule, beating Rhode Island and Oklahoma.
And on top of all of that, Bama doesn't have many horrible losses.... only the loss to Minnesota would go down as a bad one.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:56 pm to BHMKyle
quote:What? Texas is 5-10 against Q1. That's the opposite of impressive.
Bama's resume is probably the best of the above with the exception of Texas IMO
Winning % is more important to me than quantity. Alabama has a pretty good resume and would probably make the tournament right now, but if they lose their next two and finish 17-15, no fricking way they get even a First Four bid. Losing a bunch of games has to matter at some point.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:57 pm to BHMKyle
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It actually happens quite often
3 games or more under .500 in conference? I believe that ESPN put up that graphic the other day and it was only a few teams, maybe it was 4 games under .500 in conference. Either way, it isn't easy to do.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:58 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Both fricking suck, so who gives a shite which one is better?
One got paid a lot more money to suck.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:02 pm to BHMKyle
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I understand Bama fans hedging their expectations
Oh we're not hedging anything. Hedging implies balancing the positive with some negative. There is no positive here.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:03 pm to GatorsGators
LSU swept Arkansas and Texas A&M and beat two at-large locks in Michigan and Houston in non-conference.
Why are they not even on the bubble? Because sheer quantity of quality wins can't save a bad record.
Why are they not even on the bubble? Because sheer quantity of quality wins can't save a bad record.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:04 pm to TDFreak
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One got paid a lot more money to suck.
I can honestly say that if it isn't negatively effecting some other program I could give two shites how much a coach makes.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:05 pm to GatorsGators
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Why are they not even on the bubble?
Because they only have 8 Group 1/2 wins and 6 Group 4 wins. Alabama has 11 Group 1/2 wins and 2 Group 4 wins. That's the main reason.
If they replaced Alcorn State, Samford, UTM and UNCW with UTA, Louisiana Tech, Mercer and Lipscomb I'm guessing they would be in the conversation.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 1:07 pm
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