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re: Is anyone else enjoying the OU tears?

Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5598 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:54 am to
Discussing this with rational LSU fans is fun.

Which program would I rather be right now, Oklahoma or LSU?

LSU has somewhat mediocre teams after 2011 and before 2019, and in 2020 and 2021.

Oklahoma has won numerous conference titles and has been a mainstay in BCS games and CFP showings.

LSU goes all in and has a 2019 all-world national championship.

Oklahoma makes the CFP four times without advancing to the title games in four chances.

Oklahoma may be better off based on consistency and not having near .500 seasons. But LSU has the elusive prize that Oklahoma can’t seem to finish and see in recent seasons.

I’d rather be LSU with a recent championship and a rebuild than OU with the consistent winning recipe that ultimately fails to result to winning it all.

As an OU fan, there is nothing really to boast about compared to the level of success the SEC consistently attains.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:58 am to
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Now, Riley leaves them and they’re triggered extremely hard by anything he does. Is there another fan base who deserved a reality check more than OU?
I mean, Tech basketball fans have really been butthurt the last few months. And what's funny is that this could be the single greatest men's team, across all sports, that their university has ever had (their history is pretty terrible), and they're still more fixated on what Beard and Texas are doing
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:59 am to
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Ah yes. I’ll be sure to catch the classic sooner games on the history channel. That seems to be the only thing you people can cling to. Like I said, it’ll be nice to have another ole miss in the SEC. Fans who all love to talk about the good old days.

lol amusing ,You are the first person in my lifetime that has ever mentioned the history channel and football in the same sentence. And the fact you did it with a straight face begs a lot of questions,

The link failed, having said that, OU has more wins, natties, better wl record percentage, bowl games, better winning percentage in bowl games, more All Americans , more Heismans ,NFL draft picks, than LSU.

Additionally, OU only claims 7 National titles but the NCAA states they have 16. The only school in history with four coaches with over a 100 wins, longest winning streak in the history of the NCAA.

But LSU has a record of 2 and 1 versus OU, hang your hat on that




This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
4629 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Additionally, OU only claims 7 National titles but the NCAA states they have 16. The only school in history with four coaches with over a 100 wins, longest winning streak in the history of the NCAA


Using your logic Yale > Chokelahoma. They have 18 national championships.
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:04 pm to
as if a and m has any freaking thing that qualifies as storied and tradition. You should be embarrassed OU has more natties than the combined total of Texas, A and M, SMU, and TCU

I could waste some time and add more div schools from Texas on the list but I have made my point. I listed the most storied teams in Texas history at the collegiate level.

SMU is more storied than A and M.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1569 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
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MOJO ERASER is the only OU fan I've seen online or out in the world.

Lord help you, you need to get out more!
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3078 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:52 pm to
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LSU just got us with 4 f our best players suspended and them having their greatest team ever … most people don’t realize OU actually gained more yards than And scored more points than Clemson did vs LSU. All I gotta say is be careful for what you wish for .


That's a lot of crying in such a few sentences
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
23973 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:17 pm to
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SMU is more storied than A and M.


After this recruiting class aggy may be mentioned in the same company as SMU. But I guess it’s legal now?

But they do have Eric Dickerson in common…..
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1569 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:22 pm to
OU will be fine, it will be a transition, but OU made a commitment to getting better and being more competitive by joining the SEC. Riley didn't like the idea, probably because he knew his system would not likely translate well. As OU fans we knew he recruits well and connects with young players, however his programs have been soft and his refusal to actually hire an OC has been an issue. I am glad to see LR go, I was NOT happy about the way he did it and how he literally plundered existing players and the recruiting class, as many in the CF industry have said, it may have been legal, but it was not right. It showed what kind of person he is. A great number of us are excited to see a tougher program. I find it kind of funny though, that people like the OP (and 8&4 fans) take OU to task for being in the B12 and then mock OU for joining the SEC, it's kind of silly.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:26 pm to
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I know its difficult for you LSU fans to only have twenty years or so of relevance in CFB


Careful, careful, careful Oklahoma.....prior to the 1950's, Oklahoma wasn't relevant at all in CFB.

Over HALF of the current SEC (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Kentucky -- same year as OU --, LSU...yes, LSU!!, Tennessee, Texas A&M and VANDERBILT -- yes, VANDERBILT!!) had been voted #1 and national champions BEFORE Oklahoma ever was voted #1 in a poll in 1950.

Winning national championships in football is OLD HAT for the SEC. For OU's benefit, don't ever forget it.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Referee
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2021
3010 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:57 pm to
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The majority of the teams Aggies look down on have winning records over them.


What program DO they beat year end and year out? Is there a program worse than A&M?
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11047 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 6:55 pm to
TLDR. Nice try though pal.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
2446 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:33 pm to
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Careful, careful, careful Oklahoma.....prior to the 1950's, Oklahoma wasn't relevant at all in CFB.


The AP poll started in 1936. OU had six top 20 finishes in the years between 1936 and 1949. This includes a 2,4,5 AP finish.

Before that OU had mostly good teams except for from 1923 to 1935.

From 1895 to 1923 they had six undefeated seasons.

This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted by OilfieldSooner
Member since Jan 2018
74 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:06 pm to
You know it’s getting deep when folks start bringing up a time in football before African Americans could play. Maybe it’s me, but I don’t see a whole lot of OU folks shedding tears. We’re pissed about the way Riley lied and then claimed he only took kids from the portal. Look, it’s legal it is what it is and we’re moving on. All the OU fans I know are pumped to have Brent back. It’s true that he is an unproven head coach, but he’s beaten the big boys of the SEC as DC at Clemson. We just want a tougher team, a team that will take your will defensively like what the SEC puts out week in and week out. Brent is the best choice to make that move. If anything, OU fans were made very aware of the holes in Riley’s armor in 2019. Lincoln found out what happens when a defense absolutely takes your entire will and fight in the first half. It doesn’t matter how many points you score when you’re down 35 or whatever it was. Can’t wait to join the conference.
It will be tough, but OU needs this to get back to our roots as a program.
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:08 pm to
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You can't seriously think that. Besides the fact that Riley is one of the best coaches in the college game, Venables hasn't even proven he's a decent head coach.


we do believe it because Venables has been on 9 teams that played for national championships. He has been under 3 hof head coaches.... he is the best defensive coach in Football and has been for 5 years or more. They once said the same thing when Bob Stoops was an assistant. At OU we dont go after head coaches of ther programs... we always go after the best assistant coach out there.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 9:10 pm
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:12 pm to
early 2000 the Big 12 top to bottom was a better conference. Texas OU KSU Nebraska and Colorado were all top 10 teams yearly. Colorado tailed off but they were once what UGA is now. KSU was the 2nd best team OU played in 2000 and i say for sure they beat FSU as well. Nebraska was great then died off and Texas took over. From 2003 to 2008 the big 12 was college football and we might not of won all the NCs but we were the focus.

Alot of the NCs are just pure bad luck ... 2008 OU loses Demarco Murray before the NC game... 2009 colt mccoy gets hurt in 1st quarter and they still hang with BAMA with a backup. 2003 Jason White is injured playing qb. These are facts not excuses.,
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:33 pm to
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If it is true the SEC is better because of recruiting or coaching staff than OU will not be at any type of longterm disadvantage over any other team in the SEC.


Half your program wins currently come against Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Oklahoma State.

You will be at a long term disadvantage because your life is about to get infinitely more difficult.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
2241 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:41 pm to
FUTURE Looks brighter without Lincoln. LR never grew into the HC position. It was obvious he wanted to be play caller not a HC. The results of the program while he was the titular HC trended down to ending at third place in the Big 12.

He left because he was scared to go to the SEC. It has been documented that as soon as he was told Oklahoma was going SEC he told his agent to get him the USC job.

Oklahoma is picked to win the Big 12 in 2022. Lincoln got his third place barely.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7259 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:42 pm to
I've honestly never thought a whole lot about OU one way or the other before.

Still am enjoying their tears.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11047 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:21 am to
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From 2003 to 2008 the big 12 was college football and we might not of won all the NCs but we were the focus.


The big12 then was what the big10 is now. Still inferior to the SEC
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