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re: Interesting, Sumlin to 49ers and Harbaugh to Michigan rumor/thought
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:36 am to ColoradoElkHerd
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:36 am to ColoradoElkHerd
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Sumlin leaving A&M is wishful thinking by the rest of the SEC.
So you don't think that there is a legit possibility that he might want to give the NFL a shot?
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:37 am to ColoradoElkHerd
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Sumlin leaving A&M is wishful thinking by the rest of the SEC.
He is a very good coach who has the potential to be a great coach, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking SEC teams "fear" him.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:40 am to cardboardboxer
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There was a lot of talk last offseason about Texas making Saban the first coach to earn $10 million a year. If we lose Sumlin this offseason we will be the first team to break that barrier.
No one is breaking that barrier anytime soon.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:43 am to RoyalAir
Yes, that was likely a bad recommendation.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:50 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
I doubt the 49ers pay him more than 5 million and its also lot more expensive to live in San Fran and he has a huge buyout. Pretty dumb to leave the A&M gravy train right now. I could see him jump to the NFL someday but not for few years.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:54 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Michigan could pursue someone outside of the program. Maybe Freeze? The dude can flat-out recruit. Maybe David Shaw? Jim Mora Jr? Larry Fedora? Al Golden? Or maybe Sumlin, which is wishful thinking for both myself and the rest of the SEC.
It wouldn't surprise me if Michigan can't get a Harbaugh, then they could go after ole Butch Jones. He was born in Michigan, and he coached there off and on for 10 years. Butch could be their plan B.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:55 am to RB10
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Also, NO coach wants to go back to college.
Saban says "hi."
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:57 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Can we keep all this crap off the boards until November when that board will return
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:27 am to Bamatab
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No one is breaking that barrier anytime soon.
We will if we have to. We can afford to, and as new money we don't feel like a steward of the game.
Eventually someone will if not us. Too much at stake. Too much of a difference between a bad coaching hire and a good one.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If he keeps having success I'm sure he will at some point. He has a massive buyout he would have to pay in his contract if he leaves before 2017 so I think he's probably ours until then and leaves if he keeps winning.
Not that I think this rumor has legs, but the buyout is probably a non-issue. If an NFL team wants a coach that much, they'll pay the buyout themselves without blinking.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:34 am to Sev09
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Saban says "hi."
Spurrier also says 'hi'. And then punches you playfully in the mouth before going to toss off another round at Augusta.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:44 am to RoyalAir
Harbaugh to Michigan would be a dream hire for the school. Think he could do some real damage there, but I dont see it happening. The Michigan job is still prime real estate for a coach however.
Might be a few prime jobs open come the off-season:
Michigan
Miami
Florida
Cal
Might be a few prime jobs open come the off-season:
Michigan
Miami
Florida
Cal
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:46 am to randomways
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Not that I think this rumor has legs, but the buyout is probably a non-issue
Even if we have an abnormally large buyout?
That is the thing. We basically overpaid Sumlin this season on a strange deal. In the deal, if we fire him before a certain date we have to pay the entire contract in cash within a month or so. In trade, if he gets hired before a certain date he has what has to be one of the largest buyouts in college football (at least $5 million).
If a Jerry does blow that away then its good for us either way. Either we keep our good coach, or we hit the contractual lottery.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:53 am to cardboardboxer
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Even if we have an abnormally large buyout?
That is the thing. We basically overpaid Sumlin this season on a strange deal. In the deal, if we fire him before a certain date we have to pay the entire contract in cash within a month or so. In trade, if he gets hired before a certain date he has what has to be one of the largest buyouts in college football (at least $5 million).
If a Jerry does blow that away then its good for us either way. Either we keep our good coach, or we hit the contractual lottery.
$5 million is a lot, but, yeah, if an NFL team really wants a coach, they'll pay that. It's not a drop in the bucket exactly, but neither is it a huge imposition compared to player contracts nowadays. They'd pay it in a heartbeat. Hell, college teams like Texas and Bama would pay it in a heartbeat if they really wanted a coach.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:55 am to cardboardboxer
Most of the NFL insiders have been reporting that Harbaugh & the 49'ers' GM and owner have been on the outs for the past 2 yrs. To the extent it may not be a matter of him leaving them as much as it would be the team getting rid of him. I know Chris Mortenson, an NFL insider I like & respect, has been saying this for over a yr now. His sources usually turn out to be solid ones. As for Sumlin to the NFL, a $5M buyout is pocket money to any NFL owner.And his position is certainly no different or better than either The Old Ball Coach's or Saban's. Both those college football icons left situations far better than what A&M is all about now.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:05 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Most of the NFL insiders have been reporting that Harbaugh & the 49'ers' GM and owner have been on the outs for the past 2 yrs. To the extent it may not be a matter of him leaving them as much as it would be the team getting rid of him. I know Chris Mortenson, an NFL insider I like & respect, has been saying this for over a yr now. His sources usually turn out to be solid ones. As for Sumlin to the NFL, a $5M buyout is pocket money to any NFL owner.And his position is certainly no different or better than either The Old Ball Coach's or Saban's. Both those college football icons left situations far better than what A&M is all about now.
They would also have to give him a pretty substantial raise from what he makes now (he would be the 11tth highest paid coach in the NFL with his current salary). We would clearly throw money at him to try to keep him and we could go pretty damn high.
I don't think the the list of franchises that would be willing to pay him 6.5 or 7 mil a year plus the 5 mil buyout is that big, though San Fran would certainly be on it. I could see the Giants also being a realistic option. I don't see the Buffalo's, Tampas and Oaklands of the world being willing to do something like that though
I think he leaves for the NFL at some point in the next few years, as I said earlier in this thread, but I think he will be smart about it. I don't think he's going to jump at any dumpster fire situation just to go to the NFL for the frick of it
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I don't think the the list of franchises that would be willing to pay him 6.5 or 7 mil a year plus the 5 mil buyout is that big, though San Fran would certainly be on it. I could see the Giants also being a realistic option. I don't see the Buffalo's, Tampas and Oaklands of the world being willing to do something like that though
I don't see Jerry on the list either. He can afford it, but he can't afford the bad PR that breaking the bank for a college coach would cause.
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I think he leaves for the NFL at some point in the next few years, as I said earlier in this thread, but I think he will be smart about it. I don't think he's going to jump at any dumpster fire situation just to go to the NFL for the frick of it
Exactly. After the 2016 season his buyout goes from $5 million to $0.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:11 pm to cardboardboxer
I don't think Sumlin would be attracted to the Cowboys opening. If his stock is as high as people say it is he is going to want control of the personnel like Chip Kelly and Petey have
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:14 pm to jb4
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I doubt the 49ers pay him more than 5 million and its also lot more expensive to live in San Fran and he has a huge buyout. Pretty dumb to leave the A&M gravy train right now. I could see him jump to the NFL someday but not for few years.
I lean that way. He'd already be tied for the 11th highest salary in the NFL as it is.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:16 pm to cardboardboxer
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I don't see Jerry on the list either. He can afford it, but he can't afford the bad PR that breaking the bank for a college coach would cause.
Bad PR? Local sports radio LOVES the idea of Sumlin as HC (as have a few callers that I've heard) and many have been openly asking for it b/c they assume Red Jesus is dunzo (even though the Cows are sitting at 2-1)
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