re: Insanity in college athletics is going to lead to empty stadiums/arenas within 5 years!

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It’s simply overreaction by fans. 95% of the team works their arse off and loves the school they play for. You just choose to look at the outliers and put that on every college football player.

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Overreaction? The Baylor Bears men's basketball team won the national championship in 2021, and within the last week, the entire roster just jumped into the transfer portal. It's worth noting the team had a good season and was a 9th seed in the tournament just a few weeks ago!

Your carefully worded argument helps expose the real dumbass here….

College football has NEVER really been interesting and most fans know it. You guys on this board represent about 16 teams out of the 130 or so.

What you believe or think is not what everyone thinks just because you fill stadiums because you’ve been buying wins for decades. Your teams actually pay teams to come to your house to lose games. How interesting is that.

NIL and the portal have now made it interesting because every school can now buy players. And I’m not saying they will or that a Bama will stop. All I’m saying is now every team has the same choice whereas before only certain schools would even recruit a 5 star because of under the table money. Now, if Hawaii wants to buy a 5 star OLineman from the island they can. Their attendance will increase and their win total probably will too.

The truth is what most of your teams could buy in the past for a car or some cash has now gone thru the roof. Inflation has hit because the demand has grown while the supply has remained, And now that your coach can’t stash a 4 or 5 star for 2-3 years and all of sudden the world is ending. It’s gonna be great when the top teams in the country all have 2 losses. That’s healthy for any sport.

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With some it already has. I missed maybe 20 home games from 1980-2020, and have seen 0 home games since 2020. Tailgating yes, participation no.

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Very true. I could count on one hand the number of home games I missed from 1961 to 2013. I doubt I have been to more than 10 since then. But I don't count, I'm in the older crowd. It's the younger folks that the sports need to pull in to keep it going, and I just don't see the same enthusiasm from them as we displayed. TV helps, but without the loyalty and enthusiasm, the model may be hard to sustain.

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There was a day when my world revolved around Saturday football from before dawn till after midnight. Today it sits at the bottom of my priority list right below cutting grass.

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Five years ago, I followed recruiting daily and National Signing Day was like a major holiday, but I could less now. Also, I no longer have any interest in going to LSU games because there's such a disconnect with the players coming and going that I can easily find other things to occupy my time. It's sad, but true!

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Your carefully worded argument helps expose the real dumbass here….

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Tell me more about how the government telling organizations how they must do things is the free market handling it.



Funny enough, none of these problems actually existed until the government got involved and started trying to tell them they could no longer apply the standards they thought were required for the better of the sport.

When the free market was allowed to operate normally, one of the biggest sports in the world formed. Within 6 years of government intervention, it's falling apart.

And ignorant people like you cite the government interference as the "free market".

I get what you're saying, but television from the 1980's is very different from today's television world.

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College sports don't exist. They are professional minor league teams that college campuses happen to host.

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Bingo. They need remove the word college when referring to football and basketball - men and women - because both sports have nothing to do with going to college, period! I wouldn't be surprised if you looked up the definition of insanity, I'm pretty sure it would just say college athletics. Sadly, it's only going to get worse and drive more and more fans away from the game!

In fact, one of my best friends called me last night to tell me that he's made the decision to not renew his two sets of college football season tickets to his alma mater, which he's had for many, many years. At first, I thought he was joking, but he said in the last two weeks his college has lost eight starters to the portal and he refuses to support a group of players that have no loyalty to his team!

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Show me one place where I promoted more government regulation for college football…..one place,……waiting…..

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Everything that followed in the same post. You're just an ignorant person and a prime example of why Democracy sucks arse.

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If you mean the fact that courts ruled that an institution (NCAA) could no longer tell people what they could or could not earn, then yeah I am all for that. It is called FREEDOM and in America that should be important.

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The NCAA has every right to set the standards for a VOLUNTARY system.

Freedom means you are allowed to create organizations and such that agree to a set of standards to produce a product, service or whatever. In this case, a sport.

At no point in history has the NCAA ever prevented a player from earning anything. NEVER. The NCAA has no power to prevent such a things, they are again a VOLUNTARY organization.

What they prevented was their ability to play NCAA sports after doing so. That is the ONLY power they had. A standard that they should have the FREEDOM to enforce, and did.

Then they used the government to remove the FREEDOM of the NCAA and schools to have those standards. Because that's the only thing the government can do - force people do things.

That's not how a free market works, and it's ignorant to call it that. It's now a regulated market, and the government is the one regulating it. Hell, every state has different regulations at this point.

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You are too stupid to realize that the greedy arrogant coaches/leaders are the ones that put college football in this predicament beginning 20-30 years ago when they kept artificially suppressing players earnings while they eagerly took in millions and billions of dollars.

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This is just you trying to justify why you believe you should have the right to tell other people what to do. As usual people who are against liberty and freedom do so because they are scared or upset with the ways other people use those freedoms.

Because for some reason you believe YOU are the one who knows the value of things. What you cite with coaches is what the free market decided they were worth. But because that wasn't good enough for you, you believe in your infinite wisdom that the loss of freedom is justified because the free market wasn't going in the way you thought it should.

The reason why those coaches made so much is because they were responsible for an entire program. They have spent decades of time in the sport learning their skills and getting experience. And in most cases, they themselves are former players who have gone through the same systems. The free market is what decided their pay.

So yeah, you're free to your shitty opinion on how things should be done, but you sure as frick are doing it in the name of FREEDOM and it's damn sure not the free market at work.

So many dumb things you have said…I am beginning to understand why even the Alabama rant board kicked you off and will not allow you to post there.

If your twisted argument is correct then why did the NCAA member institutions violate the rules about paying players over and over and over and over…….? The schools did not follow the NCAA rules because they wanted to buy the better players. They wanted it both ways, …”We do things the right way! We would never pay players…..” is what they say out of one side of their mouth. Then when players are caught with handguns and drugs, or selling textbooks, or getting hundreds of thousands of dollars sent to their parents the schools fight the NCAA investigations in these areas. The schools do not respect the NCAA nor their standards, and the NCAA is not consistent at applying them. It is simply ridiculous to hold them up as a voluntary organization that is trying to uphold some virtuous standards.

I do not know the value of things, but I respect allowing organizations and people having the right to search for their own value in a free market.

Many coaches that were hired in the last decade it was said they supposedly had the the skill to “recruit “ the best players. Now when coaches are hired we hear hardly anything about this “recruiting” skill , because the players want to know how they will be compensated for what they bring to the team. Could it be that money, or the promise of getting them NFL money was what recruited them all along….? I mean that is what I heard Nick Saban say…..