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re: In the Age of NIL, SEC supremacy is dead

Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:48 pm to
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How did SEC top programs accumulate such a talent advantage prior to NIL and why can't they maintain it now?


Saban won 6 titles at bama. Kids came there to win championships and boost their draft stock plus they liked the discipline aspect as well.

NIL changed this line of thinking to who will pay me the most money no matter who and where they are. Forget about players sticking around and developing until it’s their turn, they just jump in the portal and get a raise.

If you can’t figure this out then you aren’t paying attention, ohio st bought a championship team, that’s the future.

Saban saw this coming and everyone ridiculed him, he was right.
Posted by Slums_Alum
It’s cold
Member since Dec 2025
979 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 1:21 pm to
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ohio st bought a championship team, that’s the future.


They still didn’t spend as much as Texas and Oregon. It’s where you spend the money. Look at Miami. Wasted 4 million on Beck but also spent on the O line and D line and it has paid off this year so far
This post was edited on 12/24/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted by ShotGunGordan
Member since Dec 2025
225 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 5:50 pm to
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I'm basing my argument on 3 years total existence.


You are just a baby; wtf does a baby know about what conference will or won't be dominant?
This post was edited on 12/24/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
997 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:36 pm to
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25: Likely to be a non-SEC team.
This is embarrassing if you are attempting to justify posting a factually incorrect metric.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
8256 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:57 pm to
Will be hilarious if it’s sec vs sec in the nattie. It could happen, too.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13184 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 7:12 pm to
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Since NIL implementation in July 2021: The SEC has won 1 championship and odds are against a win this year. That's 1/4.


I am confused because since you included in your statement 2021 which is the year UGA won their first and again in 2022 that would be 2/4. Math not your strong suit but neither is trolling I see.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27665 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 7:31 pm to
Very easy

We had recruiting and a few programs that had very good coaching staffs.

It will go between the SEC and Big Ten now each will be dominate for a few years then flip. But as a whole the SEC has more programs that can win titles in Football in Football with ease.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 10:45 pm to
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22: UGA
23: Michigan
24: OSU
25: Likely to be a non-SEC team.


Right now it's 1-3 (as the 4th hasn't been crowned yet and there are 3 SEC teams left (along with 3 Big 10 teams, 1 ACC team and 1 Big 12 team). I don't really see that as likely or unlikely for a SEC champion. I personally think the Bama beats Indiana and it will be 2 SEC and 2 Big 10 teams in the final 4.

In the last 4 it's 2 SEC and 2 Big 10. (of course both SEC titles were from the same team... UGA).
Posted by Tjtennispro
ATL
Member since Feb 2018
352 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 11:16 pm to
Auburn was 1-7 in the SEC this year. Probably the best 5-7 team all time. Auburn could beat anyone in the Big Ten this year but Ohio State.
Posted by D3Fan
Member since Dec 2024
173 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:49 am to
People don't understand that with NIL, paying players can now be done by every team. Please connect the dots SEC fans.
Posted by IrishDave
Member since Jan 2025
1008 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:51 am to
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Auburn was 1-7 in the SEC this year. Probably the best 5-7 team all time. Auburn could beat anyone in the Big Ten this year but Ohio State.



No way SEC fans still have this kind of arrogance....
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39443 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:59 am to
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People don't understand that with NIL, paying players can now be done by every team. Please connect the dots SEC fans.


Or just look at the recruiting rankings and see that the same teams are still recruiting at the top level.

Posted by IrishDave
Member since Jan 2025
1008 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:06 am to
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Or just look at the recruiting rankings and see that the same teams are still recruiting at the top level.



This....the powerhouses have all the money and always did...Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas....thats not gonna change anytime soon.
Posted by D3Fan
Member since Dec 2024
173 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 2:00 am to
Auburn can beat any team in the Big 10 except Ohio State? Was that true the year they lost to New Mexico State? How would they have handled Florida State? You know, the same FSU that beat Alabama.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 5:33 pm to
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People don't understand that with NIL, paying players can now be done by every team. Please connect the dots SEC fans.


People are really stupid when they say this.

First of all... every school has an equal opportunity to cheat and buy players. We've seen plenty get caught (like Bama, Ohio State and Southern Cal). More did it who were not caught.

The idea that players weren't paid before is dumb.

Second... all that we have now is no roadblocks (like pesky NCAA rules) to paying players. But those schools above who were caught in the pre-NIL days... they are among the ones with lots of money. And they still have lots of money.

The schools who were paying the most for players when it was against the rules are STILL the ones paying the most for players. NIL doesn't change the balance at all between schools. It just means the players themselves get more money.


What NIL has done is made football more volatile, but not more balanced. The big money teams are still the big money teams. The lower money schools that do well aren't big spenders.... they're more like the basketball teams that make a run in the tourney with 5 3-star guys who are all seniors. That's what Indiana and Texas Tech are.

The ones with 5 super 1-and-done guys in basketball are still the same names. Duke. Carolina. Kansas. Kentucky. In football... the ones who buy the most talent are still UGA, Bama, OSU, Texas... the same old teams.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27665 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:58 am to
I am sure noone like Saban, Meyer, Smart, Miles, Pete C, etc were giving high school players any money at all before that...we are all clean and never did that at all.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3976 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:16 am to
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I'm basing my argument on 3 years- 75% of NIL's total existence.


You want the truth? Ok, the truth is, the SEC dominated for the better part of a decade and the last couple of years the Little 10 has got lucky and snuck into the natty game. BUT...consider, Bama was breaking in a new coach and last year, UGA lost its starting QB just before the playoffs. Michigan looked like a strong team when it won the nc, but Ohio st limped in after a loss to Michigan and with TWO losses.

I'll say what you are too chicken-S*** to admit; The SEC is STILL the dominate conference and the Big 10 is still our red-headed step-child.

Don't believe me? Book mark this thread and we'll revisit it when this season is over. If UGA, Bama or Ole Miss isn't the national champion, I'll give you a forum-wide apology.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
732 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:59 am to
You SEC fans can keeping saying the words but the reality is being seen by everyone including young kids who are the next set of top recruits. They see a fully healthy Bama team in the first game of the season get wrecked by an ACC team. They have seen no SEC team in either of the last 2 National Championship games. Saban is gone. UGA’s dominance is gone.

You guys are living off the past. Plain and simple. It doesn’t mean UGA won’t win the Natty, but the trend is clear. Eventually the polls will start to reflect this so enjoy your 4 mid level teams and UGA getting in this year cause the committee is seeing your ineptitude in a real playoff year after year.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2717 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:02 pm to
Nil started in 2020 btw so 3 of the 5 champions crowned since then have been from the SEC.
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