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re: In Gus' last 45 games..
Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:45 pm to ArabianKnight
Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:45 pm to ArabianKnight
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Kyle, can you pull up Saban's numbers against similar foes?
I mean we all know he's at the top.... at least in the SEC that is.
He's 42-3 in his last 45 games losing only to #1 Clemson, #1 Clemson, and #10 Auburn.
He's 7-2 against Top 7 teams during that period.
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Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
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He's had only one run, and that was six years ago
It all depends on what you call "run". If you mean playing in a National Title Game, then yes, its one. But if you're talking about being one of the teams in the mix at the end of the year, then he's had two seasons in which he had a team in the mix.
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If a Georgia DB had two brain cells to rub together, Gus would have never made the BCSCG
Believe me, I know. But nevertheless they won that game. They beat Bama, yes on a crazy play, but they probably would have won in OT anyway had the Kick6 not happened. I mean they played for the National Title. You have to count it.
And when you are #2 in the Playoff Rankings in December then I'd say you made a run at the National Title. He had them in the mix, very late in the season. It's one thing to be ranked that high in November before playing Georgia and Alabama, but he had them in the Top 2 AFTER those games, going into the SEC Championship. I'd count that as a run.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:04 pm to BHMKyle
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Kirby is currently 2-3 against Final Top 7 teams.
East or West Top 7 teams?
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:08 pm to nitwit
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Gus Malzahn has worn a sweater vest in every one of these games. Sweater vest. Every one.
Well that is patently false
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:13 pm to BHMKyle
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In 2013, they played for it again, coming up just short. In 2017, they were #2 going into Conference Championship Weekend. That's six seasons that they were in the mix in a 37-year period.... so in other words, once every 6 years or so.
Which pretty much proves my point. An occasional miracle season of ‘coming up just short’ to keep the delusion alive, followed by more mediocrity. And you know what they say about coming close...horseshoes and hand grenades, etc.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:17 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Which pretty much proves my point. An occasional miracle season to keep the delusion alive, followed by more mediocrity. And you know what they say about coming close...horseshoes and hand grenades, etc.
I agree. But this is Auburn we are talking about. They are historically the 5th best program in the SEC. 8-5 or 9-4 every year with a Championship Run every 6 seasons ought not be a fire-able offense at Auburn. Not in my opinion anyway.
I mean if Auburn had ever had sustained success year-after-year it would be one thing, but at some point you've got to realize that's not likely.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:20 pm to BHMKyle
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I mean if Auburn had ever had sustained success year-after-year
I see what you mean, but Richt and Smart are the same. Easier regular season SEC schedule accounts for the 8 win Auburn seasons in contrast to the 9ish of Richt and co
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:23 pm to BHMKyle
Fair points. They’re a top 20 program historically based on wins, but they have never been consistently great for more than a couple of years. The Dye years were probably the closest they’ve come. He’s their best ever coach, in my opinion. Lot of respect for him. I’ve watched them - and the IB rivalry - for 50 years. They have always been a roller coaster ride.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:28 pm to MrLahey
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I see what you mean, but Richt and Smart are the same. Easier regular season SEC schedule accounts for the 8 win Auburn seasons in contrast to the 9ish of Richt and co
I completely agree. Gus would have an extra win every season if he played in the East instead of the West. Which again causes me to ask why fire a guy that's performed decent considering playing easily the toughest schedule in America during his tenure?
Georgia is not far off. Quite frankly Auburn has had more chances at a National Title than Georgia the past 35 years or so. I do think Georgia has more untapped potential than Auburn for several reasons:
1. More populated state with more talent
2. Not sharing a state with Alabama
3. Playing in the East every year instead of the tougher West
Georgia needs to win this weekend. If Kirby wants to be considered a Top Tier coach, he can't go 10-2 or 9-3 against what is looking to be a pretty soft schedule overall.
With that said, I'm realistic to know there's no one better out there compared to what we have. So let's get behind him and make it work.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:31 pm to nitwit
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Gus Malzahn has worn a sweater vest in every one of these games.
Sweater vest.
Every one.
And looked nerdier than Tressel.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:33 pm to Rocco Lampone
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And looked nerdier than Tressel.
Tressel looked distinguished and professorial. Gus just looks like a dork.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:41 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Fair points. They’re a top 20 program historically based on wins, but they have never been consistently great for more than a couple of years.
True. But who has? Outside of Alabama, Oklahoma, and Ohio State, very few programs are able to sustain success for long periods of time.
Of course Tennessee and Nebraska are the poster children for top programs not able to achieve success in the modern era.
But look at Notre Dame... Michigan... even Florida and Florida State. Most every program has ups and downs.
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The Dye years were probably the closest they’ve come.
Easily. They won 4 SEC Titles in an 7-year period. Even then though they underachieved in 1984 and 1985.
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I’ve watched them - and the IB rivalry - for 50 years. They have always been a roller coaster ride.
Exactly. Which I guess is the impetus for my Original Post. I can only really remember two other periods before now in which Auburn was consistent:
DYE:
1982: #14; 9-3
1983: #3; 11-3; SEC CHamps
1984: #14; 9-4
1985: #22; 8-4
1986: #6; 10-2
1987: #7; 9-1-1; SEC Champs
1988: #8; 10-2; SEC Champs
1989: #6; 10-2; SEC Champs
1990: #19; 8-3-1
That was by far their best period. To a lesser extent, they sustained some stability under Tuberville as well:
TUBERVILLE
2000: #18; 9-4; SEC West Champs
2001: NR; 7-5
2002: #14; 9-4
2003: NR; 7-5
2004: #2; 13-0; SEC Champs
2005: #14; 9-3
2006: #9; 11-2
2007: #15; 9-4
Six To 20 finishes in an 8-year period.
Now its the Gus Era:
MALZAHN
2013: #2; 12-2; SEC Champs
2014: #22; 8-5
2015: NR; 7-6
2016: #24; 8-5
2017: #10; 10-4; SEC West Champs
2018: NR; 8-5
2019: #11; 7-2 (Currently)
Gus looks to take Auburn to its 5th Top 25 appearance in his seven seasons.
IMO Auburn is arguably as stable and moderately successful as its been since Dye, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 4:56 pm to aujerm
If I'm reading the criteria correctly, games against teams finishing in the top 7, or currently in top 7, starting when first coached at present school (42 games):
I'm only coming up with 5 games for Ed O.
2016: #2 UA - L
2017: #1 UA - L
2018: #2 UA - L, #7 UGA - W
2019: #6 UF - W
I'm only coming up with 5 games for Ed O.
2016: #2 UA - L
2017: #1 UA - L
2018: #2 UA - L, #7 UGA - W
2019: #6 UF - W
Posted on 11/1/19 at 5:08 pm to BHMKyle
We get it. You mutts want Gus to stay. Don’t blame you. I’d be worried Auburn hire a competent coach and go back to owning the DSOR series too.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 5:22 pm to BHMKyle
You are wasting your time
These guys have gotten their pitch forks out. There is no rationalizing.
These guys have gotten their pitch forks out. There is no rationalizing.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 5:40 pm to LanierSpots
Footage Looks like Tiger Stadium filling up for a game....
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:27 pm to BHMKyle
I thought The Dawg was playing Florida this week?
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