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In Gus' last 45 games..
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:22 pm
He's faced 13 opponents that either finished in the AP Top 7 or are currently ranked in the AP Top 7.... that's 29% of all games played during this stretch.
#1 Alabamain 2017
#1 LSU in 2019
#2 Alabama in 2016
#2 Georgia in 2017
#2 Georgia in 2017
#2 Alabama in 2018
#4 Clemson in 2017
#5 Oklahoma in 2016
#6 UCF in 2017
#6 LSU in 2018
#6 Florida in 2919
#7 Georgia in 2018
#7 Oregon in 2019
He's 3-10 in these games with the average score resulting in Auburn losing by a TD (19.2 - 26.2).
In all other games, Gus is 28-4 (87.5%)
Those other 32 games include 5 teams that finished ranked in the Top 20 (#13, #13, #16, #18, #19) plus 9 other opponents that either went to a bowl game or who are projected to go to a bowl game this year.
The average score of these other 32 games result in Auburn winning by 23.7 points (38.3 - 14.7).
In his last 45 games, Gus has faced 29 SEC opponents and has a record of 18-11 in these conference games. Nine of these conference games were against SEC opponents that finished in the Top 7 nationally (or are currently ranked there).
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Question for Auburn fans:
Realistically speaking, which coach do you think you can get to replace Gus and how much more are you expecting from him if he were to play a similar strength of schedule?
#1 Alabamain 2017
#1 LSU in 2019
#2 Alabama in 2016
#2 Georgia in 2017
#2 Georgia in 2017
#2 Alabama in 2018
#4 Clemson in 2017
#5 Oklahoma in 2016
#6 UCF in 2017
#6 LSU in 2018
#6 Florida in 2919
#7 Georgia in 2018
#7 Oregon in 2019
He's 3-10 in these games with the average score resulting in Auburn losing by a TD (19.2 - 26.2).
In all other games, Gus is 28-4 (87.5%)
Those other 32 games include 5 teams that finished ranked in the Top 20 (#13, #13, #16, #18, #19) plus 9 other opponents that either went to a bowl game or who are projected to go to a bowl game this year.
The average score of these other 32 games result in Auburn winning by 23.7 points (38.3 - 14.7).
In his last 45 games, Gus has faced 29 SEC opponents and has a record of 18-11 in these conference games. Nine of these conference games were against SEC opponents that finished in the Top 7 nationally (or are currently ranked there).
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Question for Auburn fans:
Realistically speaking, which coach do you think you can get to replace Gus and how much more are you expecting from him if he were to play a similar strength of schedule?
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Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:23 pm to BHMKyle
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speaking, which coach do you think you can get to replace Gus
Stop with this shite. We won a National Championship with Gene Chizik and had an undefeated season with Terry Bowden. Had an undefeated season with Tuberville and went to Natty with Malzahn.
The SEC would be screwed if we ever did hire a good coach.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:27 pm to wareaglepete
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Stop with this shite. We won a National Championship with Gene Chizik and had an undefeated season with Terry Bowden. Had an undefeated season with Tuberville and went to Natty with Malzahn.
That sounds great. So what you are telling me is no matter who your coach is, you're going to have a great year followed by a total crap year soon to follow.
So if that happens every time, why are you looking to pay Gus millions to sit in his den and chew gum?
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:34 pm to wareaglepete
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We won a National Championship with Gene Chizik
Cam Newton won that national championship. Not Chizik.
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had an undefeated season with Terry Bowden
Pat Dye's recruiting.
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Had an undefeated season with Tuberville
Thanks in large part to an Alabama program unable to recruit those players due to heavy sanctions as well as one of the weakest years in the history of SEC football.
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and went to Natty with Malzahn
Thanks in large part to two of the flukiest plays in the history of college football.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:40 pm to BHMKyle
Gus Malzahn has worn a sweater vest in every one of these games.
Sweater vest.
Every one.
Sweater vest.
Every one.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:41 pm to BHMKyle
If be interested to see how Kirby, Ed O. and Mullen have done against the same subset of ap top 7 teams.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:49 pm to RollTide1987
And you'll give credit for the next one to either the previous coach or a fluke or something else. Regardless, it will happen.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:51 pm to aujerm
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If be interested to see how Kirby, Ed O. and Mullen have done against the same subset of ap top 7 teams.
Kirby is currently 2-3 against Final Top 7 teams.
Mullen is currently 0-2 against Final Top 7 teams or teams currently ranked in the Top 7.
Ed O is currently 2-3 against Final Top 7 teams or teams currently ranked in the Top 7.
Cumulatively, they are 4-8 (33%) which is marginally better than Gus (23%).... However, I will point out that Gus has faced about twice as many Top 7 opponents at least in his last 45 games.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:52 pm to wareaglepete
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The SEC would be screwed if we ever did hire a good coach.
No.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:57 pm to BHMKyle
quote:I think I agree with you for the first time ever Kyle! Hell, I hope Gus reigns supreme on the Plains forever.
BHMKyle
Rock on Gus keep that bus rollin.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 1:59 pm to wareaglepete
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The SEC would be screwed if we ever did hire a good coach.
We can bank on y'all to eff that up.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:04 pm to BHMKyle
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Realistically speaking, which coach do you think you can get to replace Gus and how much more are you expecting from him if he were to play a similar strength of schedule?
Gus has lost his way and edge is the problem. God only knows why he abandoned what worked for him. The offensive genius isn’t even creating Top 50 offenses any longer. This year is especially aggravating seeing as it was the best he ever had backing him.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:04 pm to BHMKyle
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which coach do you think you can get to replace Gus
This isn’t my job. I have no idea who is the right fit for Auburn but there are multimillionaires responsible for making those decisions.
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how much more are you expecting from him if he were to play a similar strength of schedule?
I expect to watch good football especially on the offensive side of the ball. He was hired as an offensive guru. The eye test has failed over and over again since 2015.
That’s the biggest issue. We have zero offensive identity and routinely lose our most important games of the season. Yes, our rivals are annually ranked very high. Every year you can expect LSU, Georgia, and Alabama to get some kind of championship buzz at some point. We aren’t scared of scheduling quality OOC opponents. We miss our annual game with Florida.
So to compete with the best, you have to strive to beat the best. Gus has proven he can beat the mid tier teams of the conference - as any Auburn coach should be expected to do. He’s also proven he cannot beat LSU, Georgia, or Alabama but once every 4 years or so and never all in the same season.
But as said before, the biggest issue is the eye test on offense. We look like a Mickey Mouse high school offense when up against quality defenses.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:04 pm to wareaglepete
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The SEC would be screwed if we ever did hire a good coach.
The older I get, the more I realize that a program's success tends to typically be more about the program and less about the coach.
Take Auburn for instance....
Pat Dye won 4 SEC Titles.... he also went 12-15-1 in his final 28 games before being fired (spread out over 2 seasons and part of a 3rd).
Terry Bowdon started out 20-1-1 at Auburn, finishing #4 and #9 in his first two seasons. Four years later he was fired in the middle of what would be a 3-8 season.
Tommy Tuberville won the SEC West in Year 2... Finished in the Top 15 in Year 4... won the SEC and finished #2 in Year 6.... and just 4 years later was fired after a 5-7 saason.
Gene Chizik won a National Title in Year 2. In year 4 he was coach over a 3-9 team that may be one of the single worst "Big 6" teams of the past 50 years.
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It doesn't really matter who Auburn's coach is. Auburn is going to have high highs and low lows no matter who it is. Oddly enough, Gus has had those high highs but has never come close to getting to those low lows. His worst season was 7-6, but unlike all those others before him, he's not had a losing season.
I guess that's why I don't understand Auburn fans. You seem to finally have a coach who will always net you 8 wins in the worst years but he's good for a run at the National Title every 4-5 seasons. Compared to your history, what more can you ask for?
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:06 pm to BHMKyle
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Kirby is currently 2-3 against Final Top 7 teams.
And 2 of those losses were to Alabama.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:07 pm to UnderDog68
Im sure Pete wants someone like Bill Clark or Dino Babers. That is a crazy stat, while I would love to be better than 3-10 against the top 7, not sure any coach would be better. Also some of those 10 loses were in years when we didnt have a good team like 2015/2016.
And all except UCF were against teams that ended up in the CFP or has a good shot this year to be in the CFP.
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And 2 of those losses were to Alabama
And all except UCF were against teams that ended up in the CFP or has a good shot this year to be in the CFP.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:07 pm to BHMKyle
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Gus has had those high highs but has never come close to getting to those low lows
Look at the pattern. The low lows is what gets us to the next thing and next upswing. I will give Gus his due, he has helped Auburn reach consistency. But it is a consistency that will not be met with thunderous applause. It is a malaise that in the end could be the worst thing that could happen.
I know one thing for sure, when fans of other schools are defending your coach and telling you are stupid for not appreciating them, then you are correct that you have the wrong coach. I always though Mike Shula and Mark Richt were better than given credit for.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:09 pm to BHMKyle
Good stuff. Auburn has had insane strength of schedule Over the past several years.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:10 pm to AubieinNC2009
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Bill Clark or Dino Babers
I'll pass. I like Chris Klieman.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 2:11 pm to Rhino5
Gus : The game has passed him by
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