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re: In 10 years when football is on life support, what will the SEC do?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:50 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:50 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
I agree with your post, although I think college baseball will always be a regional sport due to weather. In the north, I think hockey will become a more popular second sport as opposed to baseball.
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Well at least Bama will have 10 more titles
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Don't worry, Bruce Pearl was sent back from exile to lead SEC basketball into the promise land.
You're all welcome.
You're all welcome.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Don't care...we're a basketball school now.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Come on - the odds of being one of the handful of guys who make 10s of millions of dollars is about like winning the lottery.
The odds are higher that they will be millionaires than that they will suffer debilitating neurological symptoms during their lifetimes.
As for the physical toll, well, many will continue to make that choice.
Oh, and the posts about baseball are very wrong. It will not become the premiere college sport. Basketball will, but you will also still have a version of American football, because the sudden loss of those scholarships, primarily to minorities, would be a terrible thing.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Just wait until it gets into the argument of "the poorest minorities among us sacrificing their bodies for rich white people's entertainment". Agree or disagree, but that argument is coming and anyone with a brain knows it.
That argument is always there but it falls apart when you see what working in a coal mine, a factory, a slaughterhouse and countless other jobs do to the body. The problem is a lot of people making that argument have no idea what physical jobs do to a person - at least with football you get a chance to make a metric ton of money.
If I was faced with the choice of working 20 years in a coal mine, getting paid well but not well enough, knowing that it would wreck my body and my kid would likely face the same fate versus playing football, wrecking my body but knowing that it could lift my entire family out of dire economic circumstances then I'd say there's no real choice at all. Every person who could would take the football option in a heartbeat.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:14 pm to Prof
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That argument is always there but it falls apart when you see what working in a coal mine, a factory, a slaughterhouse and countless other jobs do to the body. The problem is a lot of people making that argument have no idea what physical jobs do to a person - at least with football you get a chance to make a metric ton of money.
Like I said, I'm not arguing for that pretext, but it will 100% come up and a large chunk of the agenda setting class will run with it.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:21 pm to Rohan Gravy
Federer only has a few more seasons in him and CFB is dying.
When both of those things go away, I just won't follow sports anymore I guess.
When both of those things go away, I just won't follow sports anymore I guess.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Like I said, I'm not arguing for that pretext, but it will 100% come up and a large chunk of the agenda setting class will run with it.
I agree. That said, damn near every job out there is making some nameless white guy a shite ton of money while paying us peanuts. The game board was set up and the pieces in play before any of us were even born. The only way out for most of us (regardless of color or gender) is via the arts/tv/film/sports -- in a word: entertainment.
It's the naivete of the agenda class you speak of that says a life in a factory barely making ends meet is better than a life of football. Football has graphic pictures where you see violence happen. These folks have never seen a 40 year old factory worker who looked like he was 70 because labor takes a toll whether your work is filmed or not. That class is so far removed from the every day life of poor whites and poor blacks that they think the substitute would be a cushy office job. They can't imagine the jobs available to the working class.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:25 pm to Prof
You're absolutely right. But the problem is that pragmatism has no place in modern politics.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:37 pm to EKG
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If that’s the case, I’m surprised y’all aren’t ranked higher in the current Director’s Cup standings.
Well...since UT only plays 20 scholarship sports, even when they are doing well they will be behind other schools. In looking at it, you notice how well Kentucky did and how poorly LSU did relative to the number of sports they have contributing to their points total.
Scholarship Sports for each school in Bold
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1. Texas A&M - 22
12. Georgia - 23
13. Florida - 23
21. Kentucky - 21
22. Alabama - 22
23. Missouri - 20
27. Auburn - 22
30. Arkansas - 19
32. South Carolina - 21
34. Tennessee - 20
41. LSU -22
64. Mississippi State - 18
75. Ole Miss - 18
170. Vanderbilt - 16
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:44 pm to madmaxvol
I don’t doubt any of that.
And I wasn’t criticizing your university; the Vols are a solid program.
My comment was directed at your compatriot who stated, “VOLS are ahead of the curve,” regarding not being a football school—as if Tennesseee was paving the way in other, less visible sports.
And I wasn’t criticizing your university; the Vols are a solid program.
My comment was directed at your compatriot who stated, “VOLS are ahead of the curve,” regarding not being a football school—as if Tennesseee was paving the way in other, less visible sports.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:47 pm to EKG
Tennessee used to be in the Georgia/Florida/Texas A&M category when it came to all-around sports. While I get my giggles in at them, their entire athletic department collapse is quite unbelievable.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:48 pm to volfan30
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A situation where it’s the only way your child would be able to get a college education is about the only way I’d be able to justify it as a parent, even then I’m not sure what I’d do.
For a lot of kids I've worked with, football is their only stability in life. It's the only place they feel like they're really good at something. It'll be a real shame if they ever ban it because it does more good than harm for lots of young people.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:49 pm to madmaxvol
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30. Arkansas - 19
Highest team at 19?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So what happened?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:51 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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For a lot of kids I've worked with, football is their only stability in life. It's the only place they feel like they're really good at something. It'll be a real shame if they ever ban it because it does more good than harm for lots of young people.
Totally agree. It's a very unique game in the teamwork involved and the size of the roster. There isn't really a sport that can take it's place as "community" sport. Baseball is one true love, but even with that said, I openly admit there is nothing quite like playing on a football team.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:52 pm to TomRollTideRitter
As far as what SEC schools will do, I disagree with people that say that something like baseball will fill the gap. Baseball is nothing like football. It's more likely that a college football fan will just start fishing more or something. I like baseball, so I'm not trying to shite on it or anything. I just think it's a very different kind of entertainment than football.
College soccer could maybe sort of recreate the atmosphere of CFB, but unlike football, a high quality of play is vital to entertaining soccer, and the best players are in professional academies overseas.
College soccer could maybe sort of recreate the atmosphere of CFB, but unlike football, a high quality of play is vital to entertaining soccer, and the best players are in professional academies overseas.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:53 pm to EKG
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So what happened?
Years of mismanagement, bad hires, bad luck, etc
Even in 1998-2000 they were an elite or very good program in : Football, W. Basketball, M. Basketball, Softball, Basketball, Track, Tennis, Swimming, etc. Then most of those just kind of gradually got worse and worse (Womens Basketball) while some fell off a cliff (Football, Baseball).
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:55 pm to EKG
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So what happened?
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