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I'll play devil's advocate and defend Texas Tech...
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:05 pm
Sorsby bet on games he wasn't playing in, and had no power to influence outcome. That's it. Really not a big deal at all. Every college aged kid in America is betting on games now. It's a stupid rule, only enforced so Vegas can make money. Let's not pretend this is some honor of the game BS.
Honor for the game went out the window decades ago.
Where is the outrage when Jim Harbaugh films play calls and wins a national championship. It gets pinned on a patsy, swept under the rug, and he's rewarded with the hardware and a high paying head coaching job in the NFL.
Where is the outrage when Michigan covers up sexual harassment of their new head coach for just a few more weeks so they can keep their signing class intact.
Where is the outrage when speeding, DUI, domestic abuse, and weapons charges are covered up with a 2 game suspension.
Where is the outrage when Reggie Bush gets his Heisman revoked, but USC gets to still claim their national titles.
In a system where Hugh Freeze gets another shot as a head coach, i take no issue with Sorsby getting to play QB for a season. It really doesn't matter, and i would rather the best competition be on the field.
Honor for the game went out the window decades ago.
Where is the outrage when Jim Harbaugh films play calls and wins a national championship. It gets pinned on a patsy, swept under the rug, and he's rewarded with the hardware and a high paying head coaching job in the NFL.
Where is the outrage when Michigan covers up sexual harassment of their new head coach for just a few more weeks so they can keep their signing class intact.
Where is the outrage when speeding, DUI, domestic abuse, and weapons charges are covered up with a 2 game suspension.
Where is the outrage when Reggie Bush gets his Heisman revoked, but USC gets to still claim their national titles.
In a system where Hugh Freeze gets another shot as a head coach, i take no issue with Sorsby getting to play QB for a season. It really doesn't matter, and i would rather the best competition be on the field.
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:11 pm to theliontamer
I have never in my entire life heard of an athlete getting caught betting on his team’s games and not be banned for it. Maybe it’s happened, but in any sport at any level, I’ve never heard of it.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:13 pm to theliontamer
Nothing you posted questions the integrity of the game.
There's no justifying this.
Embarrassing for Texas Tech and everyone associated.
There's no justifying this.
Embarrassing for Texas Tech and everyone associated.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:14 pm to theliontamer
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I'll defend Texas Tech
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LSU fan
Least surprising thing I’ve seen on the rant all week.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:15 pm to ManBearSharkReb
You think LSU fans are supporting Texas Tech after the dumb frick that is Cody Campbell actually said that "nobody would care about this if it was LSU"...?
Oh, Black Bear.
Oh, Black Bear.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:15 pm to theliontamer
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Sorsby bet on games he wasn't playing in, and had no power to influence outcome.
Uh I heard he did bet against Indiana as a backup player. Thats enough right there to make this a non starter. Tech needs to forget about the offensive no-show vs Oregon and take advantage of an already strong roster and an off schedule to repeat. I see no upside to keeping Sorsby on the team given these conditions and the damage its doing to our program.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:16 pm to theliontamer
He bet on the under when he had inside info on the game plan. He should be arrested.
Poor Martha went to prison for insider trading. This was insider gambling
Poor Martha went to prison for insider trading. This was insider gambling
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:18 pm to theliontamer
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theliontamer
How much did Cody Campbell pay you to make this thread?
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:18 pm to Red_and_black
I have a lot of good friends that went to Tech and the majority of them are on the side that they don't think a 1-year mercenary is worth having their reputation shite on by everyone outside of Lubbock.
Unfortunately, the ultimate decision makers think otherwise.
Unfortunately, the ultimate decision makers think otherwise.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:22 pm to NFLSU
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I have a lot of good friends that went to Tech and the majority of them are on the side that they don't think a 1-year mercenary is worth having their reputation shite on by everyone outside of Lubbock.
Unfortunately, the ultimate decision makers think otherwise.
Yep, to bad they are driven by ego and pride; not logic. That sin will destroy you every time.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:22 pm to theliontamer
No one at Tech seems to understand how damaging this is to their brand. They're now the worst brand in college athletics. Maybe they don't care, and maybe the kids getting the $$$ don't care, but it seems to violate some basic principles of creating and maintaining a respected, trusted brand.
Schools are like corporations now. Branding matters.
Schools are like corporations now. Branding matters.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:23 pm to theliontamer
It's even more fundamental. Where was the outrage when football programs (all of them) cheated by paying players (pre-NIL). It involved the entire coaching staff, the AD, and the the booster club with tacit approval from the administration. Where was the outrage then? How many on this board took the teenage defense - everyone else is doing it why can't I? The winks, the rationalizations but no one, NOT ONE PERSON, demanded it stop. It was a conspiracy at the highest level of these institutions not the action of a misguided young man and yet NO ONE called it out. Indeed, coaches were sought after becuase they were good "recruiters" ...wink, wink.
Now, we have NIL and schools inducing players to move through surreptitious methods. Who is getting fired for this? Where is the accountability?
So, spare me the sanctimony. Your hypocrisy is easy to see.
Rodo
Now, we have NIL and schools inducing players to move through surreptitious methods. Who is getting fired for this? Where is the accountability?
So, spare me the sanctimony. Your hypocrisy is easy to see.
Rodo
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:25 pm to Red_and_black
What he bet on is all hearsay right now. So i don't know what you heard, from a guy, that's friends with ur cousin. If he was influencing games or outcomes, we would know about it because that is all the media would talk about. If criminal charges are brought against him for doing so, then sure, he should be banned.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:26 pm to theliontamer
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I'll play devil's advocate and defend Texas Tech...
I read your thesis and you failed. Ban Sorsby or Tech!
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:31 pm to Rodo
The difference between paying players (cheating pre-NIL and then just NIL) and gambling on your team’s games is that paying players did not compromise the idea that every player is playing to win the game and try as hard as possible. Cheating by paying players was widespread, but it didn’t compromise the integrity of the game on the field. If anything, it incentivized playing better.
Gambling on your team’s games is totally different. Aside from the obvious throwing games and point shaving, which I don’t think there is any evidence that the TTU QB did that, players are privy to game plans, injuries, problems with the team, etc that the general public doesn’t. It is a form of fraud or stealing because you are using your position on the team and your insider knowledge to gamble with a higher level of insight than the general public.
And, of course, the fact that a player on the team has a financial interest in the outcome of the game puts the results of the game into question. There is so much wrong with betting on your team’s games, that’s why it has traditionally lead to bans.
Gambling on your team’s games is totally different. Aside from the obvious throwing games and point shaving, which I don’t think there is any evidence that the TTU QB did that, players are privy to game plans, injuries, problems with the team, etc that the general public doesn’t. It is a form of fraud or stealing because you are using your position on the team and your insider knowledge to gamble with a higher level of insight than the general public.
And, of course, the fact that a player on the team has a financial interest in the outcome of the game puts the results of the game into question. There is so much wrong with betting on your team’s games, that’s why it has traditionally lead to bans.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:33 pm to Jack Daniel
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He bet on the under when he had inside info on the game plan. He should be arrested.
There is no such thing as “insider gambling.” He didn’t break a law. Just NCAA rules. But when has the NCAA been consistent in handing out suspensions, expulsions, and punishments?
OP lays out a solid argument pointing out this inconsistency. Do I think TTU should tell Sorsby to take a hike? I do.
But this is the weakness of a judge unwilling to do the right thing. And why are Cignetti and IU skating scott free on this? They had to have known about it.
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Cheating by paying players was widespread, but it didn’t compromise the integrity of the game on the field.
Uh… yeah it did. Richer schools were able to steal recruits from others. Athletes who would’ve gotten exposure at other schools sat on the bench and then had to sit a year if they decided to transfer. For a long time, they couldn’t transfer. Cheating by paying players reduced parity by a large margin.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:35 pm to bluestem75
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He didn’t break a law.
Tell me you don't know what underage gambling, computer fraud and wire fraud are without telling me.
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:37 pm to bluestem75
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There is no such thing as “insider gambling.”
Do you mean there is no such thing as a law called “insider gambling” or it the concept of it doesn’t exist?
If you mean the concept, I think it definitely does. Could one not bet the under on rushing yards for his team if they know the gameplan calls for them to throw the ball more than usual? Over/under on FGs made if you know your kicker pulled his hamstring in practice during the week and won’t be kicking attempts more than 40 yards?
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:37 pm to TeddyWestside
It's about the credbility of the sport. What do you think has a greater impact on credibility? Rampant cheating at every major program in the NCAA for decades involving all positions of authority or one rogue kid?
The kid has been held accountable at least to a certain level. How many coaches, ADs, booster, Presidents have been held accountable? 1%? Less?
Rodo
The kid has been held accountable at least to a certain level. How many coaches, ADs, booster, Presidents have been held accountable? 1%? Less?
Rodo
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:39 pm to Rodo
The only thing more entertaining than Sorsbys at Tech would be Sosrbys with Lane and LSU.
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