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re: I'll play devil's advocate and defend Texas Tech...

Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:42 pm to
My bad. I assumed he was 21 when he made the bets.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20749 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:43 pm to
Lane would've kicked him off because his #2 is a 5* QB

Feels good to have a head coach with a spine.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1934 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:43 pm to
And we would experience the shortest recorded event in human history. The time it took LSU fans to switch to full support of Sorsby.

Rodo
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
3165 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:45 pm to
They both damage credibility, but tolerating players gambling on the actual games brings the actual games that people pay hundreds of dollars to see in-person and millions more watch on TV into disrepute, while the rampant cheating and money being paid to recruits really just brings recruiting into disrepute, and recruiting has unfortunately always been disreputable.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5147 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:45 pm to
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It's about the credbility of the sport.


Jackie Sherill ring a bell Rodo?
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1934 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:47 pm to
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Jackie Sherill ring a bell Rodo?


Yes, and he's in the 1%. He got cut loose.

Rodo
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
1394 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:48 pm to
Been plenty of articles on this and it's comparing apples to oranges.

Humans, including football players, do bad things. Sometimes atrociously immoral and illegal things. Consequences for this range from in-house discipline to trials in criminal courts.

Gambling is unique in that it's a crime against the sport itself. There are clear rules at every level, every league, against gambling, because it affects the overall competitive balance and outcome.

The whole "this poor kid's addiction" argument is BS. People understand addiction and are forgiving. If Pete Rose's addiction had been alcohol or coke he'd be in the MLB Hall of Fame. He gambled on the game though and this is a unique, cardinal sin in the world of sports.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18540 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:50 pm to
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What he bet on is all hearsay right now.




No, it's not. Sorsby provided the NCAA with extensive details about his betting activities:

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The documents included a four-page stipulated facts, which Sorsby and Texas Tech submitted to the NCAA and wasn't contested by the governing body's enforcement staff. It stated that during his college career at Indiana (2022-23) and Cincinnati (2024-25), Sorsby used accounts registered in his name, a family member's name and friends' names to place at least $90,000 in impermissible wagers via Hard Rock Bet, FanDuel, Underdog and PrizePicks accounts.

Sorsby transferred at least $60,000 to two friends to cover bets made on his behalf, per the documents.

While Sorsby was enrolled at Indiana from June 2022 to December 2023, he acknowledged making at least 2,900 bets that totaled more than $30,000.

Between Sept. 2 and Oct. 22, 2022, Sorsby made at least 40 wagers on Indiana football and/or individual members of the team. According to the documents, the bets ranged from $1 to $114 and totaled at least $850.


Brendan Sorsby placed at least 40 bets on Indiana as Hoosiers QB
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
3165 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:52 pm to
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Gambling is unique in that it's a crime against the sport itself. There are clear rules at every level, every league, against gambling, because it affects the overall competitive balance and outcome.

[…] If Pete Rose's addiction had been alcohol or coke he'd be in the MLB Hall of Fame. He gambled on the game though and this is a unique, cardinal sin in the world of sports.


Perfectly said. I am surprised at how many people don’t understand this.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2842 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:56 pm to
Mr Sue everyone Cody Campbell could learn something from you.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2050 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:56 pm to
Ok, then please list for us all the bets he made on his own while at Indiana.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18540 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:03 pm to
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Ok, then please list for us all the bets he made on his own while at Indiana.


Read the entire article and then do your own research to see if you can find the full statement he made to the NCAA.

However, this part alone is damning enough for 99.9% of the population:

Sorsby made at least 40 wagers on Indiana football and/or individual members of the team.

He literally admitted that to the NCAA
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2050 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:20 pm to
Ok, so I am correct, and the actual bets he made are not public knowledge at the moment. Thanks for participating and providing no useful or intelligent information.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2050 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:21 pm to
I mean, they already had a terrible brand. Is this really hurting them?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18540 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Ok, so I am correct, and the actual bets he made are not public knowledge at the moment. Thanks for participating and providing no useful or intelligent information.


Please explain why knowing he bet $1 that Indiana would score under 21 points in a game matters if we know he made at least 40 bets on Indiana and/or individual players?

Why are you excusing the latter? Why do the details of each bet matter?
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2978 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Ok, so I am correct, and the actual bets he made are not public knowledge at the moment. Thanks for participating and providing no useful or intelligent information.
It's in the public record. There is a 700+ page fact stipulation that includes the details. You can download it for $70 if you like.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61703 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:26 pm to
The implications go beyond just gambling

This creates an issue with the governance of college football itself, regardless of the rule, unlike any of the items mentioned in the OP.

This was a black and white rule, no room for interpretation, with past instances of enforcement, that this court just said must be ignored. This removed the last tooth the NCAA had and verified that the only governing body of ncaa football is the court system
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2050 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:27 pm to
The last shred of credibility the ncaa had went out the window when nothing happened to Michigan after the Harbaugh-Stallions scandal.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2050 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:32 pm to
Betting on your friend to have a good game is different than betting on your team to lose and throwing the game. Every argument on here is acting like he affected the outcome games.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18540 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:34 pm to
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Betting on your friend to have a good game is different than betting on your team to lose and throwing the game.


Is it? I'm not seeing that distinction in the rules that govern all college athletes (and athletic departments). Can you help me find it in the NCAA Bylaws?

NCAA Bylaw 10.3:

10.3 Sports Wagering Activities. The following individuals shall not knowingly participate in sports wagering activities or provide information to individuals involved in or associated with any type of sports wagering activities concerning intercollegiate, amateur or professional athletics competition:

(a) Staff members of an institution's athletics department;

(b) Nonathletics department staff members who have responsibilities within or over the athletics department (e.g., chancellor or president, faculty athletics representative, individual to whom athletics reports);

(c) Staff members of a conference office; and

(d) Student-athletes.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 3:38 pm
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