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re: If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?

Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:23 am to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:23 am to
I would make it a two pod league. The West pod and the East pod.

You play 3 teams from the other pod every year. A "rivalry game" played every year. You rotate two other teams from the other pod.

This gives you a total of 10 SEC games every year.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:39 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
I would make it a two pod league. The West pod and the East pod.

You play 3 teams from the other pod every year. A "rivalry game" played every year. You rotate two other teams from the other pod.

This gives you a total of 10 SEC games every year.


MrAUTigers: I think 10 would be great, but what if the coaches only agree to 9?

You seem to be an older Auburn fan, don't take it to be an offense, I am an older fart myself, saw my first LSU game in 1970 when Archie Manning played in Tiger Stadium.

What about a 3-1-5 format, assuming the PODS that the SEC network put out:

POD1: LSU/Texas A&M/Ole Miss/MSU
POD2: Texas/OU/MIZZOU/Arkansas
POD3: Alabama/Auburn/TENN/Vandy
POD4: UGA/Florida/UK/SCAR.

The 4 non-negotiable games for SEC scheduling since the 1992 expansion are as you know 1)Bama/Auburn, 2)UGA/Auburn, 3) UGA/Florida and 4) TENN/Bama

So with POD3, games 1 and 4 are taken care of. POD4 takes care of game 3. So the only thing you need to do is make UGA/Auburn the 1 permanent cross-POD game. In addition, I am old enough to know that Auburn had their "Amen Corner" using the Masters holes 11-13 to refer to playing TENN/Florida/UGA and Bama. So while I would think the LSU/Auburn game is your #3 best game, it seems the TENN/Auburn game would quickly become you all's #3 and it would become TENN's #2 game.

My POD2 takes care of Texas/OU, and you can make Texas and Texas A&M permanent cross POD teams to take care of that historic rival game. Also, it restores the 2nd most important game from the old SWC by having Texas and Arkansas play. Arkansas and MIZZOU already are playing and MIZZOU restores and old BIG8 rival game with OU.

LSU gets Texas A&M, which is becoming a more "Rival game" and we would easily be their #2 rival game behind Texas. I think the LSU administration should just see what Florida thinks and see if Florida and LSU can be our cross-POD game. That game has a "rivalry" feel to it and the players of both teams are "Chippy" when they play. In addition, it has been one of the best games going in the league for the last 20 years basically.

As for who Alabama plays as a cross over, well they and TENN and OU can work something out. Alabama posters have been talking about wanting to equal their records against Texas and OU and have some a "Blue Blood" type match. So maybe OU/Bama, if they don't want to do that or the league, maybe OU and TENN. Tennessee's population, especially around Nashville is booming and the HS talent there is actually good. Sooner or later they are going to get a coach to turn TENN around.

Maybe Ole MISS with Lane Train can be Bama's cross over. While Lane 100% respects Nick, I think he wants to be the first of Saban's assistants to beat him. IF he does, that will establish Ole Miss and give him the credentials that Jimbo at Aggie, Kirby at UGA and Now Sark at Texas do not have.

So the 3-1-5 keeps all the historic rival games, and allows everybody to play everybody twice (home and home) in 4 years. So LSU will still see Auburn, Bama often and we also get to play UGA, TENN and UK more, UK the last time we went to Lexington was 2007, Athens it was 2013.

Any thoughts?

Posted by dcml
Member since Jul 2021
98 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:51 am to
East
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vandy
Tennessee

West
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Missouri
Arkansas
Ole miss
Mississippi state
A&M
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:52 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
East
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vandy
Tennessee

West
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Missouri
Arkansas
Ole miss
Mississippi state
A&M


NOPE!, 7-2 format means you don't see teams from other side for 5 years. Not a fan.

Fans need to see all the teams in the other Division (PODS) sooner. The 3 permanent 6 rotation or the 3 POD + 1 Cross-POD Permanent+ 5 rotation allows you to see everyone twice within 4 years.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by dcml
Member since Jul 2021
98 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:55 am to
That works
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:57 am to
quote:

In addition, I am old enough to know that Auburn had their "Amen Corner" using the Masters holes 11-13 to refer to playing TENN/Florida/UGA and Bama. So while I would think the LSU/Auburn game is your #3 best game, it seems the TENN/Auburn game would quickly become you all's #3 and it would become TENN's #2 game.



I enjoy the LSU rivalry, but bama, uga, tenn., and uf are Auburn's most natural rivals. I would love to play those four every year. To this day I hate we lost the UF rivalry. There were some absolutely unforgettable games in that series. That's why I would like to see an East of bama, Auburn, uga, uf, tenn. vandy, sc and uk. bama keeps their two rivals. Auburn picks back up with Tenn. and uf. I would like to see Auburn have State as their cross-division rival.


Auburn has played State 94 times

Ole Miss 44 times

Lsu 55 times


I am a huge fan of tradition. That is why college football is far superior than the NFL for me. Wrongs were made when we expanded last time and this is a chance to fix them.


ETA and yes, I am old. I can remember watching Archie lose to bama by 1 back in '69.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6807 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:59 am to
quote:

What about the PODS that the SEC put out and a 3-1 cross POD permanent and 5 rotating, that allows you to keep all the non-Negotiable SEC historic rival games and see everyone within 4 years.



My math might be wrong, but aren’t we short a team here? You have 4 teams that you play every year, but then you have 11 left to rotate so the 5/5 leaves you short by 1.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:59 am to
No.

8 west
8 east

7 games in division
2 games in other division (rotates - NO PERMANENT OPPONENTS)
3 non-conference, only one can be lower division.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:06 am to
quote:

If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
No.

8 west
8 east

7 games in division
2 games in other division (rotates - NO PERMANENT OPPONENTS)
3 non-conference, only one can be lower division.


So for your grouping to work, is Bama, UGA, Florida and TENN all on board for Bama and Auburn to go East. I know some Auburn fans are, but is that the feeling among all those teams ADMINS, fans, etc?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:07 am to
quote:

8 west
8 east

7 games in division
4 games in other division (rotates to where you play every non-division team every 2 years) - NO PERMANENT OPPONENTS are necessary because the real ones will be within the divisions)
1 non-conference, Ga/Ga. Tech, USCe/Clemson, Fla/FSU, etc.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

So for your grouping to work, is Bama, UGA, Florida and TENN all on board for Bama and Auburn to go East. I know some Auburn fans are, but is that the feeling among all those teams ADMINS, fans, etc?
Here's what it'll look like:
West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M

East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee and Vanderbilt
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

My math might be wrong, but aren’t we short a team here? You have 4 teams that you play every year, but then you have 11 left to rotate so the 5/5 leaves you short by 1.


Damn, maybe I am off, yep not going to work, we are short 1. Crap, of well that was FUBAR. I am at 15, still 1 short.

Well it looks like a 7-2 division or 3-6 rotation. I am not in favor of the 7-2,
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Here's what it'll look like:
West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M

East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee and Vanderbilt


Well if that is what it is going to be, just have to get use to it.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:17 am to
You start with two traditional powers in each pod. You group the two power based on a past rivalry or potential new rivalry. You group the others based on geographic location.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Well if that is what it is going to be, just have to get use to it.

Don't worry...you'll get used to it!...gotta be positive!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:30 am to
quote:

You start with two traditional powers in each pod. You group the two power based on a past rivalry or potential new rivalry. You group the others based on geographic location.


Why don't you just lay out your idea by team, then it can be discussed..too much vagueness like it is.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
quote:
Well if that is what it is going to be, just have to get use to it.

Don't worry...you'll get used to it!...gotta be positive!


Well I am trying? I just guess if I want to See LSU play a 3rd team from the New East LSU needs to win the West and play Bama, UGA, Florida, etc in Atlanta.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Well I am trying? I just guess if I want to See LSU play a 3rd team from the New East LSU needs to win the West and play Bama, UGA, Florida, etc in Atlanta.
8 west
8 east

7 games in division
4 games in other division (rotates to where you play every non-division team every 2 years) - NO PERMANENT OPPONENTS are necessary because the real ones will be within the divisions)
1 non-conference, Ga/Ga. Tech, USCe/Clemson, Fla/FSU, etc.
You'll love this!....trust me.
PS- another plus is all the games will have some significance....none of that Akron or Alabama STATE crap!
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:40 am to
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With the amount of angst coming from Aggies that Texas is even joining the conference, I doubt they put them in the same division.


That will be the ask by the Aggies.

The insecurity is incredible to watch in real time.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2763 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:43 am to
Y’all may not like it but if you think that “hypothetical” SEC pod system the SEC network posted ASAP when news broke was truly hypothetical and not passed down from headquarters I have oceanfront property in Arizona for you. You might as well accept it.
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